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balihai



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 Post Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2002 12:42 pm    Post subject: Role-playing required?
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I'm actual hopeful for it. Granted this is definitely a modern era type game, so it gives players a huge amount of leeway. (Which is awesome!)

I think it would still unnerve me to see "OMG, LOL!" in every day conversation. Or "Yes! The Pats won the Superbowl AGAIN!"  ;D

I'm hoping that it isn't just  "encouraged" and then completely let to slide down the tubes to the point where you CAN'T enforce it. (::cough:: DragonRealms)

~Laura

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 Post Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2002 1:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Role-playing required?
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Or "Yes! The Pats won the Superbowl AGAIN!"


<pulls out his sports almanac from the year 4593>

Mmm-hmmm just as I thought, the Patriots never made it to the Super Bowl. They stopped playing professionally when it was discovered that they allowed college players on their team.

Pepsi King

Just call me the Haelrahv version of Cliff Clavin from Cheers. Dont take me seriously well my characte-to-be anyway.  Wink
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 Post Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2002 2:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Role-playing required?
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Role-play and avoiding out of character behavior are of course different things, and I can say that we won't tolerate the latter.  Anyone blatantly being OOC will be dealt with in some form, tho it may be an IC form rather than a warning, depending on the situation.

RP will be encouraged, tho I have to say I'm not yet certain what all the benefits will be.  Your comments and ideas are welcome. Wink

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 Post Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2002 2:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Role-playing required?
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While it will be virtually impossible to...um...force...if that is even the right word...everyone to stay in character, we will have mechanisms in place to reward good role-playing and penalize bad role-playing.  If a conversation is in a private area, then pretty much anything goes.  If someone is walking around populated areas talking about the latest terrorist bombing in the Middle East, we won't go for that.  Again, we won't catch everyone...but we will be on the lookout.

I can tell that you are the type of person who likes to role-play in a role-playing game, go figure.  I'm the same way.  As a player, the biggest way I try to control role-playing is to deal with "snerts" in character.  I try not to let others ruin the game for me.  Usually, I give characters a friendly reminder like, "Must be they let you out of the mental institution a bit early because those strange voices in your head are starting to actually talk here in Haelrahv." or "I'm from Haelrahv, what planet are you from?  We have no, as you say, Patriots here. But we do have argabu sausage and it is to die for!"  Something snappy like that.  I never come right out and tell them that they are destroying the environment for me.  That would just add to the problem.

The tough part is that role-playing is a judgment call.  What you and I consider good role-playing may be extreme.  <shrug> I don't know.

The words "force" or "encourage" are words that I hated, but being on the design end of a game now, I don't know what to really do about people who like the statistical part of the game but they don't role-play.  Heck, some players just don't role-play.  They never leave their hunting grounds or they sit around and make techno gadgets all day. (I just had to get a shot in on PepsiKing, LOL)  So, would it be fair to them to force them to have to interract with other characters?  They don't hurt anyone or damage the game environment.  How could you penalize someone like that or even leave them a big disadvantage within the game?

I got off on a tangent there, but I do understand what you are talking about.  You're talking about those characters you wish would get lost in some vast hunting area and never return because they can't keep their trap shut about their real life.  We should have things in place to discourage that.  I would also ask experienced role-players to help keep the environment.

This friendly little bitch session perpetuated by:

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 Post Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2002 2:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Role-playing required?
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(I just had to get a shot in on PepsiKing, LOL.


<nods> <turns to Leroy his newest droid "Find Myst and do well do what you do best' Leroy exits the area>

Stay tuned to this board for further developments.

PepsiKing

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 Post Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2002 3:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Role-playing required?
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In some ways, it'll be easier to tell the OOC stuff because of the time-frame.  Humans arrived on Haelrahv around 300 years ago.  The time they "left Earth" was around now.  So those of us who choose to play humans will be playing our several times great-grandchildren.  They might have a fleeting recollection of grandma talking about Britney Spears who her mother talked about who HER mother talked about and so forth.   I'd like to think though, in 300 years, people really won't have a cultural memory of Britney Spears or even of the Patriots.  They might have a recollection of there being teen-aged singing stars or of the game of football, but the little details simply won't have survived.  That's why we created Terra Historia because we figured that humans would want to do their best to preserve the memories they do have...but they'll be of the big things like castles and King Arthur and Mozart and so forth...not the little things like who won a football game in 2002.

Hope my rant makes sense.  

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 Post Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2002 5:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Role-playing required?
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Who are you to mention Brittney Spears and Mozart in the same breath!?!  <pfzt>

<curls up with his life-sized cardboard cut out of Britney drinking a Pepsi>

<gazes longingly into Britney's eyes>

Oh, they'll remember you forever, baby.  Yes they will.  Heh.  Mozart.  <pfzt!>

<glances down at a coffee table full of Tiger Beat, 17 and Teen People magazines with Britney's picture on them>

Mozart was never on the cover of Rolling Stone!
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 Post Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2002 10:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Role-playing required?
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Heck, some players just don't role-play.  They never leave their hunting grounds or they sit around and make techno gadgets all day. (I just had to get a shot in on PepsiKing, LOL)  So, would it be fair to them to force them to have to interract with other characters?  They don't hurt anyone or damage the game environment.  How could you penalize someone like that or even leave them a big disadvantage within the game?


  Depending on the character, this might even be completely IC. A grizzled old tracker or an obsessed Tech may very well be anti-social.

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 Post Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2002 1:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Role-playing required?
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I definitely agree that someone who decides to go off and hunt or increase their knowledge can be VERY IC. I also am aware that the other part of role-playing game is ....GAME. So, you definitely want people to be able to enjoy themselves as well.

I am greatly looking forward to those smaller systems that you guys will have: cooking, etc. Perhaps some tailory? I enjoy RP where I can give my character a whole life, with all the smaller aspects, rather than just a Guild.

I'm rather thrilled that you are putting so much basis on race, as well. When an overwhelming emphasis is put on just Guild then so much of possible character development can get lost.

I'mma stop rambling now.   :-X

~Laura

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 Post Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2002 2:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Role-playing required?
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<g> We have a skill specifically for Tailoring. It applies to both sewing and such, as well as working with hides and skins to make things.

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 Post Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2002 2:53 am    Post subject:
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I think not socializing would be very IC for HR as far as I can tell. I mean, if I'd much rather empty (what ever weapon I have access to at the time) into your (as far as I'm concerned) worthless carcass because you look at me, who are you to say that I'm not in character.

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 Post Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2002 3:40 am    Post subject:
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Being anti-social can be completely IC, especially for certain professions, races and character backgrounds. It is true, unfortunately, though that it is harder to be noticed for any sort of role-playing award if you don't act out anything and just train skills and hunt.
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The death of my foe is all the reward I'll need. However, for those few that will be fortunate to be on my good side, will they be able to, themselves, bestow an RP award to me much as you can do in DR?

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 Post Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2002 10:49 am    Post subject:
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Not sure yet, but I don't see a reason to disallow it.
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 Post Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2002 5:52 pm    Post subject:
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Being anti-social can be completely IC, especially for certain professions, races and character backgrounds. It is true, unfortunately, though that it is harder to be noticed for any sort of role-playing award if you don't act out anything and just train skills and hunt.

Haha! He don't know Prydaens very well, do he.

I've a good deal of RPAs, just from being my traditional racist anti-socialish Prydaen self.
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