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Seth Ventril Disenfranchised Shadow ![](images/avatars/20133474db7233ad95.gif)
Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 494 Location: The mean streets of "The Town"
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:20 am Post subject: To Hit? |
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Level: 48
Marksmanship: 150 (154)
Tactics: 96
Evasion: 144 (152)
Agility: 80 (81)
Coordination: 58
Mentality: 50 (55)
Perception: 40 (51)
Alright, with all of my statistics out of the way...Is there anyone who can attempt to tell me why I can't hit a single guard with my guns? And how they always manage to hit me? Is 2 promotions really that much of a difference, or is it a matter of my mentality/coord being too low?
*Edit* I've tried this with varying sorts of encumbrace, including not being encumbered at all and it didn't make a difference. I've also tried fighting them poorly balanced and normally balanced, and that didn't seem to help. They dodged and hit me too much for me to get to Incredibly balanced, so I didn't test with that. _________________ Victim: Well, what is the creed?
Assassin: It's very secret, passed down for hundreds of generations. If I told you, I'd have to kill you.
Victim: Aren't you already killing me anyway?
Assassin: That's a good point...The creed is..."Stick them with the pointy end." - Ctrl+Alt+Del parody of Assassin's Creed.
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TELEPATHY [close]: Yaru Dex - "Great now you made Mickey cry. Thanks a lot, Seth."
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Korell Ventril exclaims, "Choo ain no guard! Choo a crackhead!" |
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soundless EIGHT YEARS OLD!!! ![](images/avatars/1829645cd39509672c.png)
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 5970 Location: Spaceship
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:03 am Post subject: |
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it's possible that it's a mix of them being two levels higher plus them using shields. shields are notably more effective at blocking things than evasion, _________________ A bright-eyed Thekko Ku Kalla dressed in a dapper sailor suit takes to flight and careers through the air toward the Modan Kucho and slams into him!
With a high-pitched cry, The Modan Kucho collapses in death. |
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Seth Ventril Disenfranchised Shadow ![](images/avatars/20133474db7233ad95.gif)
Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 494 Location: The mean streets of "The Town"
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:25 am Post subject: |
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Hm. Didn't think of that. I'll try again some more using my blades and seeing if that helps.
*Edit* Not that I expected this to work at all, but it didn't. I'll just wait til next promotion and try again. _________________ Victim: Well, what is the creed?
Assassin: It's very secret, passed down for hundreds of generations. If I told you, I'd have to kill you.
Victim: Aren't you already killing me anyway?
Assassin: That's a good point...The creed is..."Stick them with the pointy end." - Ctrl+Alt+Del parody of Assassin's Creed.
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TELEPATHY [close]: Yaru Dex - "Great now you made Mickey cry. Thanks a lot, Seth."
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Korell Ventril exclaims, "Choo ain no guard! Choo a crackhead!" |
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tygerwulf Teh Pink Assassin. ![](images/avatars/cfdd3e0d3fe45b182100f)
Joined: 06 Jul 2003 Posts: 1189 Location: Hiding right behind you, Don't look!
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:11 am Post subject: |
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Shields don't offer protection against guns though right? _________________ >ask librarian about books
An elderly librarian says, "I don't know much about that, I'm afraid." |
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Seth Ventril Disenfranchised Shadow ![](images/avatars/20133474db7233ad95.gif)
Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 494 Location: The mean streets of "The Town"
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:19 am Post subject: |
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From news 16:
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[Defense]
Evasion: Agility (primary), Mentality (secondary)
Parry : Coordination (primary), Mentality (secondary)
Shield : Coordination (primary), Strength (secondary)
>>Note 1: Parry cannot be used against projectiles such as bullets, magic
bolts, or arrows. Shield can be used against projectiles but not against
'cloud' or 'aura' type attacks such as the Icy Aura spell. Shields with
lightning resistance provide partial or full avoidance of electrical-based
spells.
>>Note 2: Shield defense is slightly more effective as a defense than parry,
and parry defense is more effective than evasion. Regardless, evasion defense
is a requirement to have a chance to defend against all forms of attack. |
_________________ Victim: Well, what is the creed?
Assassin: It's very secret, passed down for hundreds of generations. If I told you, I'd have to kill you.
Victim: Aren't you already killing me anyway?
Assassin: That's a good point...The creed is..."Stick them with the pointy end." - Ctrl+Alt+Del parody of Assassin's Creed.
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TELEPATHY [close]: Yaru Dex - "Great now you made Mickey cry. Thanks a lot, Seth."
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tygerwulf Teh Pink Assassin. ![](images/avatars/cfdd3e0d3fe45b182100f)
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:20 am Post subject: |
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Ah. I couldn't remember exactly. _________________ >ask librarian about books
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HR-Trevor Boss Type Guy ![](images/avatars/35774638d348e1809.gif)
Joined: 04 Oct 2002 Posts: 6683 Location: Louisville, KY
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:46 am Post subject: |
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I'll tell you this much... as-is, you do have a chance to hit guards, but you're overall evenly matched. Your level is a factor, and yes, shields are superior to evasion all things being equal - unless of course you were using a cloud, aura, etc as indicated.
The biggest factor is that guards are considered to be in the Trooper profession and receive a 10% defensive skill bonus accordingly. You'd be hitting them fine if they were, for instance, Trackers. _________________ "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." -- Plato
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Seth Ventril Disenfranchised Shadow ![](images/avatars/20133474db7233ad95.gif)
Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 494 Location: The mean streets of "The Town"
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:06 am Post subject: |
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Ah. I'm glad all is not as Daedalus said, and I do not in fact suck at combat.
Thanks a ton Trevor. _________________ Victim: Well, what is the creed?
Assassin: It's very secret, passed down for hundreds of generations. If I told you, I'd have to kill you.
Victim: Aren't you already killing me anyway?
Assassin: That's a good point...The creed is..."Stick them with the pointy end." - Ctrl+Alt+Del parody of Assassin's Creed.
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TELEPATHY [close]: Yaru Dex - "Great now you made Mickey cry. Thanks a lot, Seth."
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soundless EIGHT YEARS OLD!!! ![](images/avatars/1829645cd39509672c.png)
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 5970 Location: Spaceship
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:46 am Post subject: |
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Seth Ventril wrote: |
Ah. I'm glad all is not as Daedalus said, and I do not in fact suck at combat.
Thanks a ton Trevor. |
if it helps any if you were better in combat you would hit them better, so it kinda is because you, relatively, suck.
to put actual value into the reply, i remember royal guards being kind of crappy in the treasure-dropping department, so if you plan to hunt them for loot you might be disappointed. _________________ A bright-eyed Thekko Ku Kalla dressed in a dapper sailor suit takes to flight and careers through the air toward the Modan Kucho and slams into him!
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Tao
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Joined: 19 Nov 2002 Posts: 1733 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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HR-Trevor wrote: |
I'll tell you this much... as-is, you do have a chance to hit guards, but you're overall evenly matched. Your level is a factor, and yes, shields are superior to evasion all things being equal - unless of course you were using a cloud, aura, etc as indicated.
The biggest factor is that guards are considered to be in the Trooper profession and receive a 10% defensive skill bonus accordingly. You'd be hitting them fine if they were, for instance, Trackers. |
I heard that! Don't be dissin da Trackers Trevor! <runs> Just kidding! Heh. _________________ Lick or Be Licked |
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HR-Trevor Boss Type Guy ![](images/avatars/35774638d348e1809.gif)
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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Hey now, if the guard was a Tracker using a bow or firearm... _________________ "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." -- Plato
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Seth Ventril Disenfranchised Shadow ![](images/avatars/20133474db7233ad95.gif)
Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 494 Location: The mean streets of "The Town"
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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I'd be able to kill him, cause he wouldn't have the +10% to defenses! *cackles* _________________ Victim: Well, what is the creed?
Assassin: It's very secret, passed down for hundreds of generations. If I told you, I'd have to kill you.
Victim: Aren't you already killing me anyway?
Assassin: That's a good point...The creed is..."Stick them with the pointy end." - Ctrl+Alt+Del parody of Assassin's Creed.
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TELEPATHY [close]: Yaru Dex - "Great now you made Mickey cry. Thanks a lot, Seth."
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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You can hunt with a Guardian who can WARD, it drops combat defenses/offensives a bit, not sure by how much though. _________________ "In view of the fact that God limited the intelligence of man, it seems unfair that he did not also limit his stupidity."
-- Konrad Adenauer
"Anybody can become angry, that is easy; but to be angry with the right person, and to the right degree, and at the right time, and for the right purpose, and in the right way, that is not within everybody's power, that is not easy"
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