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HR-Trevor
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 Post Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2003 7:12 am    Post subject: Combat skill training changes.
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We're making some last minute changes to triple-trainable skills for combat. Essentially, not every profession will necessarily be able to triple train Evasion, Parry or Shield per level. Additionally, each profession chooses weapons they wish to be able to triple train in the character manager. For example, a Mage can choose two weapons to triple train, and the rest will be double trainable only. Below is a chart for all professions.

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          3x Weapons      Evasion   Parry   Shield
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Agent         5             3x        3x      2x 
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Artisan       2             2x        2x      2x
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Bureaucrat    2             2x        2x      2x
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Guardian      1 (Unarmed)   3x        3x      2x
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Mage          2             2x        2x      2x
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Medic         2             2x        2x      2x
--------------------------------------------------
Mercenary     All (9)       3x        3x      3x
--------------------------------------------------
Performer     3             3x        2x      2x
--------------------------------------------------
Psionic       2             2x        2x      2x
--------------------------------------------------
Technician    3             2x        2x      2x
--------------------------------------------------
Tracker       5             3x        3x      2x
--------------------------------------------------
Trooper       6             3x        3x      3x
--------------------------------------------------


Note: This means Psionics need a change to their core skills, as they included Evasion. I have decided to change two skills in their core list, after a bit of thought. Formerly Psionics had core skills of Evasion, Occult Lore, Psionics and Research. Now they have Intimidation, Occult Lore, Persuasion and Psionics. These changes reflect skills more likely to used by the profession on the whole.
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 Post Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2003 11:34 am    Post subject:
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It's just my opinion and it will probably not change as this is a RPG and fantastic feats can and do happen that defy logic but....any chance that unarmed combat can be made useless if a shield is used? I mean it's not possible to use fists when using a shield, someone that tries to use many of punch type moves with a shield would be near impossible as hands are made to be used together in fist fights.

Just my opinion
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 Post Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2003 11:55 am    Post subject:
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It's theoretically possible and I will consider it. Smile If you're specifically gearing that question to Guardians though, they can't use shields, or any armor or weapons.
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 Post Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2003 1:10 pm    Post subject:
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Only if you were using some kind of huge damn shield. And even then, you just move it the side when you punch or whatever else with the other hand. For normal sized through small shields (especially buckler like ones, ones that strap onto the side of your arm), this would be not a problem, plus kicking and punching with the hand not holding the shield hurts just fine.

Then there is shield bashing...
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Code:
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Trooper       6             3x        3x      3x
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And there was much rejoicing.. from me.

Interesting chart.
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 Post Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2003 1:21 pm    Post subject:
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Then there is shield bashing...


I'm still waiting for DR to implement this ability they've been claiming to have (or soon have) for years...

I'm sure we'll have some kind of shield bash attack in addition to normal weapon attacks Smile
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 Post Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2003 1:36 pm    Post subject:
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Actually yes and no on it be geared toward Guardians. Good to know though but um Trevor
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If you're specifically gearing that question to Guardians though, they can't use shields
You have Guardians 2x training in shields <glances away as to not draw his ire>

Thanks for another quick response
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 Post Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2003 2:28 pm    Post subject:
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Guardians can train shield (2x) but they can't use them. This would only be useful in cases like if we use shield use as part of the calcs for crafting shields, and generally, I doubt many Guardians will train it. <g>
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