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HR-Trevor Boss Type Guy
Joined: 04 Oct 2002 Posts: 6683 Location: Louisville, KY
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:51 pm Post subject: Stealing |
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Stealing has been partially released, details as follows:
- Only civilians can be stolen from.
- Getting caught does not reduce your Vale faction.
- Getting caught has no fines or other penalties, until the new justice system
is released.
- Stealing does alter alignment slightly.
- Anyone can steal, but Agents are faster and can earn more.
- To get an idea of how difficult a mark is, CASE them. _________________ "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." -- Plato
-- Trevor Rage / Rich Mondy |
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soundless EIGHT YEARS OLD!!!
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 5970 Location: Spaceship
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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somewhere tygerwulf wet himself.
i already made these, but i'll post them here too:
bugs:
can steal in RT
suggestions:
have case teach some exp
have hiding improve chance of steal (unless it already does)
have stalking improve chance of steal (unless it already does)
lacad civillians stealable too? (unless, you know, already done...) _________________ A bright-eyed Thekko Ku Kalla dressed in a dapper sailor suit takes to flight and careers through the air toward the Modan Kucho and slams into him!
With a high-pitched cry, The Modan Kucho collapses in death. |
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Hokius
Joined: 17 Oct 2005 Posts: 191 Location: Wherever Things are Exploding, Haelrahv
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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Is there somewhere to train stealing? _________________ End of line.
You can't take a girl to the Library! What? It's free? Well that's not so bad then...--David Scully as Sergeant Johnson, Halo 2 Outtake |
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soundless EIGHT YEARS OLD!!!
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 5970 Location: Spaceship
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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Hokius wrote: |
Is there somewhere to train stealing? |
picker's place. _________________ A bright-eyed Thekko Ku Kalla dressed in a dapper sailor suit takes to flight and careers through the air toward the Modan Kucho and slams into him!
With a high-pitched cry, The Modan Kucho collapses in death. |
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HR-Trevor Boss Type Guy
Joined: 04 Oct 2002 Posts: 6683 Location: Louisville, KY
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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bugs:
can steal in RT -- fixed
suggestions:
have case teach some exp --it does, but not every time.
have hiding improve chance of steal (unless it already does) -- it does, a lot
have stalking improve chance of steal (unless it already does) --Sure, done.
lacad civillians stealable too? (unless, you know, already done...)-- I would assume they can be stolen from. If not, let me know. _________________ "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." -- Plato
-- Trevor Rage / Rich Mondy |
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tygerwulf Teh Pink Assassin.
Joined: 06 Jul 2003 Posts: 1189 Location: Hiding right behind you, Don't look!
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:35 am Post subject: |
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OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG.
<3 Bossman.
* Edited by Trevor so Tyger's post doesn't go a mile fucking wide! _________________ >ask librarian about books
An elderly librarian says, "I don't know much about that, I'm afraid." |
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tygerwulf Teh Pink Assassin.
Joined: 06 Jul 2003 Posts: 1189 Location: Hiding right behind you, Don't look!
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 5:09 am Post subject: |
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You begin maneuvering to stalk a royal engineer.
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You move into place and ready yourself to follow a royal engineer.
>steal engin
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You can't steal from a royal engineer.
And sorry, I was a little excited.
EDIT: And, in town:
>steal life
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You can't steal from a very young life guard. _________________ >ask librarian about books
An elderly librarian says, "I don't know much about that, I'm afraid." |
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soundless EIGHT YEARS OLD!!!
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 5970 Location: Spaceship
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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i know you can't steal from the same mark after already getting cash and in most cases of getting caught, but if tyg steals from civilian X, does that mean no one else can as well? _________________ A bright-eyed Thekko Ku Kalla dressed in a dapper sailor suit takes to flight and careers through the air toward the Modan Kucho and slams into him!
With a high-pitched cry, The Modan Kucho collapses in death. |
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tygerwulf Teh Pink Assassin.
Joined: 06 Jul 2003 Posts: 1189 Location: Hiding right behind you, Don't look!
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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I usually murder them after I steal from them, so I avoid getting the same person twice. _________________ >ask librarian about books
An elderly librarian says, "I don't know much about that, I'm afraid." |
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soundless EIGHT YEARS OLD!!!
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 5970 Location: Spaceship
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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tygerwulf wrote: |
I usually murder them after I steal from them, so I avoid getting the same person twice. |
that's very, uh, kind of you. _________________ A bright-eyed Thekko Ku Kalla dressed in a dapper sailor suit takes to flight and careers through the air toward the Modan Kucho and slams into him!
With a high-pitched cry, The Modan Kucho collapses in death. |
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HR-Trevor Boss Type Guy
Joined: 04 Oct 2002 Posts: 6683 Location: Louisville, KY
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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soundless wrote: |
i know you can't steal from the same mark after already getting cash and in most cases of getting caught, but if tyg steals from civilian X, does that mean no one else can as well? |
Yes it does. However, NPC's who are stolen from find new money to line their pockets with every 10 minutes or so. _________________ "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." -- Plato
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tygerwulf Teh Pink Assassin.
Joined: 06 Jul 2003 Posts: 1189 Location: Hiding right behind you, Don't look!
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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If they live that long, of course. _________________ >ask librarian about books
An elderly librarian says, "I don't know much about that, I'm afraid." |
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soundless EIGHT YEARS OLD!!!
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 5970 Location: Spaceship
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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oh, another possible bug from last night.
what with my agent being a massive level 4 brute of awesomeness, she was getting caught with even the most trivial of marks (of course, a lack of streetwise possibly/probably made that CASE less accurate). sometimes, instead of getting pissed and advancing, they just immediately left the room (and sometimes came right back in, but not pissed). is that intentional?
you can also sometimes do a second grab before finishing the first, but i'm thinking that's more an overall system bug where you can sometimes repeat any action before the last one's result shows up (in the case of actions that are action+roundtime->action result vs action+result+roundtime all at once.) _________________ A bright-eyed Thekko Ku Kalla dressed in a dapper sailor suit takes to flight and careers through the air toward the Modan Kucho and slams into him!
With a high-pitched cry, The Modan Kucho collapses in death. |
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HR-Trevor Boss Type Guy
Joined: 04 Oct 2002 Posts: 6683 Location: Louisville, KY
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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Yep. First, CASE. CASE is based on skills you have versus the NPC's difficulty to be stolen from. It's on a steep skill incline so it doesn't surprise me low level Agents get caught easily. And, once you fail a CASE attempt, any future failures will show the same faux difficulty appraisal. And, if someone else CASEs the NPC and fail, they'll get the same faux difficulty. In other words, it's impossible to determine if you're getting a fake or real result.
As for reaction. When you steal from a NPC, if it's someone who normally doesn't engage in combat at all, they will walk off after shouting. If it's someone who can be attacked and thus is combat prepared, they have a 1 in 3 chance of deciding to attack you. _________________ "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." -- Plato
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soundless EIGHT YEARS OLD!!!
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 5970 Location: Spaceship
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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i'm nowhere near getting this ability yet, but does embrace shadows help any? i forget if it helps you advance on someone unseen + stalk, or if it is just the former. just because of embrace helps you be sneak up in someone in any manner, maybe this is another thing to add to that.
now all i need is to train my agent a lot. _________________ A bright-eyed Thekko Ku Kalla dressed in a dapper sailor suit takes to flight and careers through the air toward the Modan Kucho and slams into him!
With a high-pitched cry, The Modan Kucho collapses in death. |
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