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 Post Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 8:46 am    Post subject:
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Morrigan, when those places come out, will you only be able to visit if you're of that race? If not, I can see the other places becoming much like Llanfair...if everyone mingles anyhow, it won't matter what the society is suppose to be like.
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 Post Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 8:56 am    Post subject:
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Morrigan, when those places come out, will you only be able to visit if you're of that race? If not, I can see the other places becoming much like Llanfair...if everyone mingles anyhow, it won't matter what the society is suppose to be like.


Unless something has changed, only those races will be allowed entrance, yes.
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 Post Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 8:57 am    Post subject:
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Morrigan, when those places come out, will you only be able to visit if you're of that race? If not, I can see the other places becoming much like Llanfair...if everyone mingles anyhow, it won't matter what the society is suppose to be like.


Unless something has changed, only those races will be allowed entrance, yes.


Cool! I was thinking that Beau said everyone can go to Esia, but only eolai could go furthest in. But good, I'm all for racial places.
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i'm all for smuggling myself in to take down the man, then. Very Happy
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 Post Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 10:16 am    Post subject:
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Unless something has changed, only those races will be allowed entrance, yes.


Yay for an excuse to have racial mules!
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HR-Morrigan wrote:
Unless something has changed, only those races will be allowed entrance, yes.


Yay for an excuse to have racial mules!


You always see the bright side in everything. XD
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 Post Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 10:28 am    Post subject:
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I call it being realistic.
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Esia is an Eolai area, and yes...everyone will be able to gain entrance, but there are areas that only Eolai will be allowed into. As far as mules go...I don't consider a well-developed character to be a mule, and most mules don't get into level 10, 20, or 30 restricted places. Its possible that there will be RP areas like this, its possible that there will be shops like this, its possible that there will be hunting areas like this.

And as always, its possible that people who abuse having more than one character will be penalized.
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 Post Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 10:55 am    Post subject:
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Esia is an Eolai area, and yes...everyone will be able to gain entrance, but there are areas that only Eolai will be allowed into. As far as mules go...I don't consider a well-developed character to be a mule, and most mules don't get into level 10, 20, or 30 restricted places. Its possible that there will be RP areas like this, its possible that there will be shops like this, its possible that there will be hunting areas like this.

And as always, its possible that people who abuse having more than one character will be penalized.



Abuse? I have a large array of characters...I pay for my accounts...and most of my characters are above level 20...because I enjoy playing different races and professions and use my other characters more to help other people than myself (my tracker for Jareya travel when no one else will and my poor anti-social, people hating medic who always gets called on in the early mornings when everyone else is asleep).

I don't think that playing more than one character (in my case, I have 6 characters in general circulation over level 20...though to be fair I have Zachary on one account for when his player can finally get back into HR...so that doesn't count...3 over level 30...) should be penalized against...and I hardly see anyone that takes the time to bring up a character from the bottom to a respectable level as abusing the system.

^.^; I don't want to be accused of abusing any systems...so a tiny bit of clarification would be good.

I think you may just mean the people that rolled up an account full of 1 level people that went to the maze last year and not people that level characters on a whole...but I figured I'd check... ^.^
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 Post Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:06 am    Post subject:
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I consider abuse of multiple accounts and/or characters...and this is only my opinion...to be using them to gain things merely to have things. Like if someone had used a Performer mule to gain access to a performer-only tent, then gone out and re-distributed the goods inside. Or if someone creates an Eolai character to visit the deepest parts of Esia, not for the game play experience, or the role playing possibilities, but to shop at an Eolai only shop that sells high class weapons then take those weapons and re-distribute them.

I'd like to think most people aren't like this, because I don't think most people are. But this is one of my, and a lot of staff memebrs pet peeves....especially when things we create in limited quantities get hoarded...and then no one really uses them because one person has them all. So I'd hate to see an area I made go to waste because people only when there to use the advantages for their other characters.
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 Post Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:40 pm    Post subject:
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Or if someone creates an Eolai character to visit the deepest parts of Esia, not for the game play experience, or the role playing possibilities, but to shop at an Eolai only shop that sells high class weapons then take those weapons and re-distribute them.



Unless items were race-specific/level specific...like the tents at the fest. Or one per account...like items at the fest!
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Well, you can also violate the "spirit" of the game...where you cross that line that shouldn't be crossed. Where it just takes away from the experience for someone else...can I define "spirit" here? Nah. But I'll paraphrase from a ruling by the surpreme court that says they can't clearly define pornography, but we all know it when we see it. So by that, we all know when the spirirt of fun has been violated. Even if we can't clearly define it.

Chances are, if you're worried about violating the spirit of fun...you're doing just fine and you won't do so. But if you're worried more about proving that you haven't done so...then chances are you violate this spirit quite regularly.
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^.^ Okay, thank you.
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 Post Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 2:52 pm    Post subject:
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Tylen wrote:
Kit wrote:
It's great when people play outside the box on their chosen race.


Not when a statistically disproportionate number of people do it.


=Whole point of post. I think Aesal can pretty accurately portray my thoughts when it comes to this topic because we see eye to eye on it.

As for the Eolai maid thing, yeah that's pretty unique/cool. I don't think I would have thought about it, and it certainly shows that you actually READ about the Eolai in order to have the irony. Just don't expect Haidee to like you. ^^

It was mentioned by Yaru a few posts ago, but another issue is when people think that racist IC=racist player or mean IC=mean player and they set a personal vendetta against you, your children, and your children's children. I don't really have a way of fixing this, but it's just as annoying as hell. My player is the kind of person that likes pretty much everyone. I don't make waves or conflict for the most part. Trust me; it's sometimes hard to RP Haidee as not liking someone. Like Kit said, Haidee isn't someone who's incredibly racist. I don't know if I could RP her that way...heh. I enjoy the social part of HR too much to want to jeopardize that with her...but I don't mind making a few offhand remarks once in a while. So I do include myself in this issue. I could most definately be more racist, but even my pathetic attempts at it seems like some of top efforts that is being put towards RPing ANY racism at all.
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This is one of those things that bothers me the most too...when players put too much of RL into a game...things that happen IC are not necessarily things that reflect RL. While the best characters reflect something of the person playing them, they're by no means the actual person. Sometimes, its nice to send a friendly OOC whisper someone's way and just say "Hey, my character is a bitch, but its by no means the way *I* am. Its RP, so please play along and don't be offended."

As always, I remind you that IC actions should have IC consequences, not OOC ones.
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