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Dzynna
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 Post Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:29 pm    Post subject: Kitties
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Can those of you who play other races PLEASE not advocate for the stupid?

Darju are NOT kitties. When my Darju character (along with other Darju characters) are trying to correct the ignorant and idiotic from their stupid beliefs, I don't appreciate that we get smartass non-Darju characters going on about stuff that isn't any of their business.

SHUT UP.

It's days like this I really wish PVP was still on so I could shut you people up myself - even if it was only temporary.
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 Post Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:40 pm    Post subject:
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I'm gonna back you up there. When I started out, I thought Darju were feline to a point, but it didn't take but about 10 seconds of research to see they aren't.

Second. Trying to correct a darju on that point isn't an invitation for someone who isn't a Darju to chime in and contradict it cause they wanna start crap, be annoying, or are just generally stupid.

Last. The thought of being able to hush someone up for being stupid with a rain of arrows would be so nice. It has its places where it was abused, people went on killing sprees just cause they could... but man did it have its uses. Its so hard to live in a player policed world, when you cant give someone the smack down from time to time. Right now though it is very trying. Listening to someone smart off to you cause they know you cant do anything about it. ::sighs::

Sean, Darju Tracker

EDIT: PvP is disabled for a reason and I appreciate that it is, it's for the better. Doesn't mean I don't miss it though.
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 Post Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:41 pm    Post subject:
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<meow>

<runs and hides>


p.s. I fully agree, read up on your race before you decide to RP something and read up on other races before you ramble off at the mouth about them.
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 Post Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:51 pm    Post subject: thoughts
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i love when discourse is fruitful. a few of us darju were upset. as morgana and i were speaking about the issue, we came to this:

could use the stuff that went on just now as an example, and mention that a newbie would be most likely to form their impression of the darju based off the 'races' pages (and its attached description, not by searching through the message forum for information). but since the artwork has already been established, a prominent note in the description making clear that the darju are not felinoid would help clear misconceptions among those potential players browsing the 'races' pages. hopefully, they would read the note about darju not being felinoid .. and keep it in mind.

there will likely still be those who play their darju as though s/he is felinoid, and there are plenty of people who rp as having an 'animalistic' nature, but we as players can still (calmly) let them know of the information available both on 'races' pages and within the forum.

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 Post Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:18 am    Post subject:
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I just remember being called flea-bitten or hairy, or multibosomed for a long time. It took forever to get people to go look up and research what they were talking about. And it generally only takes one or two newbies to start up the misconceptions again.

So it's turned into a pet peeve of mine, along with the toilet lid not being lowered. Evil or Very Mad

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 Post Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:26 am    Post subject:
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Morgana wrote:
or multibosomed for a long time


hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

sorry, that was just a hilarious statement.
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 Post Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:41 am    Post subject:
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Everytime you see Yaru, pinch his cheeks.

It's um...

Pinch Yaru Cheek week.

Yeah, that's it.

Pinch Pinch Pinch

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 Post Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 2:02 am    Post subject:
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You all failed to actually question the girl, who wasn't saying that darju are kitties at all. If you all would take a fucking chill pill and not go balistic on someone who was just RPing that she was a bit off center, you would see. It would be like ANYONE pretending to be a kitty....which, concidering today's culture, isn't too impossible. I too have worn kitty ears in public and not on Halloween. I love my ears.

All of you being uppity about it were just assholes. If you take things that seriously, seriously enough to post on the BOARDS about, you need to reflect a little how seriously you take an RP medium.

I thought darju were cats for quite a long time, and there's nothing at all that says they aren't for general players to just pick up.

1. Picture on the site: They look feline.
2. Males have manes like a lion.
3. Stripes
4. Solitary
5. One character was even altered to LOOK feline with swiveling ears and fur and fangs and such.

Remedy: Put something on the website about it.

If you guys really think that cursing people out is going to make them suddenly change, you're nuts. And to Sean about doing research... I did research too. I thought: "Ick, another cat race, not for me." and then, since I have been a performer at first, I interacted with the cat-girl and since she had furr and ears and fangs, and RPed it, I definately assumed all Darju were like that because I didn't know about plastic surgery IG.

So, to recap: Chill out. Put something on the website. Don't assume people are going to do more research then needed. Talk to people and see if they are just being nutty or if they really think Darju are cats. In this case, it was the former. Not the latter.
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 Post Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 2:06 am    Post subject:
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Not that I think Darju are kitties, but I don't see anything changing since people will continue to think what they think no matter how much you try to educate them.

But I'm all for reactivating PvP.
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 Post Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:41 am    Post subject:
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Darju are not feline. They do not have fur, they have hair. And lets not forget please that we aren't RPing in todays world where cats are something we see day to day but in a world where you would be more likely to run across an oletai or an eteoch and I have yet to see any player RP either of those.
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 Post Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:20 am    Post subject:
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1. Picture on the site: They look feline.


You have some freaky felines running around.

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2. Males have manes like a lion.




vs.



Hrm.

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3. Stripes


I'm more inclined to believe they are similar to zebra than lions.

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4. Solitary


Does that mean Glim is a feline?

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5. One character was even altered to LOOK feline with swiveling ears and fur and fangs and such.


One character was altered to look like a dildo. (admittedly via holomask...but still...)

I'm just not seeing much in common with felines, when going just by the website.

-Chris

PS: I was going to put a catgirl picture here...but finding one that's small and 'safe for work' via google image search is hard.
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 Post Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:52 am    Post subject:
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I always thought they were supposed to be the feline-like race of HR, even if they're not very feline-like. I wouldn't go trying to pet one, though.

Stripes, pointy ears, nightvision, and more hairy than the other races? I can't really say I blame some people for thinking they're kitties, especially if that's all they know about the race.
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 Post Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 7:11 am    Post subject:
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Picture on the site: They look feline.


Your message board avatar looks like Keanu Reeves to me. Suffice it to say, I didn't embrace Kit's character expecting him to time travel in a phone booth and kick the shit out of computer-generated enemies.

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Males have manes like a lion.


Mantle != mane. Show me a single sentence in the Darjuan racial description that uses the word "mane".

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One character was even altered to LOOK feline with swiveling ears and fur and fangs and such.


'One character' isn't necessarily right for doing it, and sure doesn't set the precedence. Tygerwulf has bunny ears, and Brenton has a tail as well; Kelasa (and several other people) has fucking wings. Should I start expecting Eolai to bring me Easter eggs and herald my entrance to the Afterlife?
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 Post Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 7:25 am    Post subject:
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 Post Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 9:58 am    Post subject:
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I'm sorry Kit but making all the Darju lumped together because of one exception is really annoying.

I, along with a couple others, tried to get her to understand and and some told where to go for further research in private, she became unreasonable on the comm.


Trevor quoted:
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Ears can in some cases look pointed, but in the way human ears would look pointed, for the most part. They don't have pointed, drawn back ears like cats, nor do they have true pointed ears like an elf or a vulcan. It just so happens that John's rendering of the race gave this illusion. You'll notice it on some other stuff he's done too.

A Darju could have fairly pointed ears. I suppose a rare one could have really pointed ears. But this is far from typical. And *no* Darju has a tail, whiskers, etc, because they are not cat people. ;D



So that is why I suggested a bit better wording should be added to clarify the description on the website.

Other players have suggested the back hair to be called a mane, and Morrigan has replied that it's more a mantle then a mane, but even that is not the best of descriptions.

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