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[Daedalus]

So, I'm hunting above my level. About 25 levels above my level. I want to know if I'm getting rewarded by doing this, or would I be better off hunting on level? Better off being, same amount of treasure, less chance of dying. That kind of stuff.
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[HR-Trevor]

Okay, let me jump in here and address the various points recently made about the treasure updates.

[Daedalus]

[Nelle]

Trevor,

I thank you for the well thought out and written response. I do understand the need for the changes and the reasons behind them. It looks like I'll need to do some more thinking and possible make some changes in how I play Nelle again which is not necessarily a bad thing.

I'm well aware that medics weren't made to be majorly combat oriented and that if I wish to actually do that I should reallocate her, but again it's that comfort zone thing. I like having her as a medic and I'm not sure I'd enjoy another guild as much but I've tossed the idea around a few times now I will again. I also really enjoyed having this silly little medic that hunts in high heels and a skirt simply because she can. It's a very nice break from the Empath I play in DR.

Her picking her own boxes was a very recent change and it was actually a last ditch effort to not reallocate her and I found the change very enjoyable. I have a very odd playing style and I like collecting the bits and pieces that the boxes give. It's a sort of a game within a game for me - see what the boxes give for alchemy components and then make those particular potions. With the way things were set up I could gradually move her up a little higher to a new level creature to learn on and play with the boxes. And again, I know that medics aren't 'built' for security. If possible, I'll stubbornly continue to try and make it happen within her limited ability. If not, then I'll look to make changes with her.

Overall, I do think the changes are good and I believe once we all get used to them we'll all find that comfort zone again or the risk zone, or the death defying zone.

Thank you for all the hard work that goes into this game. That's to all of the GMs. And thank you for taking the time to explain and to help us adjust to the changes.
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[HR-Trevor]

Basically, we get punished for underhunting, but don't get rewarded for over hunting? I get nothing for taking my chances with paladins, besides spending more money on ammo and hospitals bills? I never really liked punishment without a chance of reward.

Daedalus, when someone uses the word "punished" like you are, they aren't thinking about fairness at all. If you really believe that you should be able to hunt way under your level and not be assessed any kind of penalty for it, then there's no point in us discussing overhunting.

I'm not obligated to respond to every player's concerns, and you're going to find yourself talking to a wall if you're going to continue to try to make your point with this sort of tone.

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i do agree completely about penalties for underhunting, but it would be cool if we could have some incentives for really pushing ourselves into overhunting.

i mean, take the mystery mage who is hunting royal guards. i'm sure there's some level of risk or at least a concious attempt to build your character in a manner to manage that situation. it would be cool to be rewarded for such.

i also know there's a certain tracker () who is hunting and being very tracker-ish about it, and thus capable of hunting things that are a huge threat to him if he hunted like everyone else. he should, in my mind, get a nice pat on the back from it.

maybe don't make the drop rate increase as much as the decrease, but even a little bit of something might be cool to get.
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A bright-eyed Thekko Ku Kalla dressed in a dapper sailor suit takes to flight and careers through the air toward the Modan Kucho and slams into him!
With a high-pitched cry, The Modan Kucho collapses in death.

[Daedalus]

[the blue fairy]

2:45 am--start hunting

numbers represent eack kucho not how many of eack item


1=box
2=vest
3=sabre
4-=fruit
5=(without buckler)paper
6=caisson
7=nothing
8=ingot
<lag in critters>
9=ivy
10=case
11=get slab
12=stone
13=ingot
<lag in critters>
14= nothing
15=guards
16=casket
17=caisson
18=ingot
19=nothing
20=skinning knife

3:00 am stop hunting

This is me fighting Kuchos(lil below) with luck trait and lucky buckler

I dont think treasure so much has dropped as box finding. Either way I didnt do to bad tonight, granted this is me snap shotting with a rifle, other than how I would like to hunt from shadowswith a blade, so its a lil faster killing. Kuchos 1-20 never touched me but the next one landed a hit, course I have a tiny burden now.



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[Nelle]

I never have found an ultra rare anything but I don't mind that. I'm not skilled with bartering so I'd probably end up just giving it away if I couldn't use it or handing it to Tshar to trade off with someone anyway.

I'm looking forward to the new skill system kicking in, every time I see the message that my X skill has improved I get excited for a brief moment before remembering that it didn't really. Yet.
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[epol]

Ok...here's what my testing and experiences have shown since I last talked.

At a Level 22 Guardian with Lucky Trait (no bonus bucklers or cords or such)

Hunting in the Fen is the place for me. Doesn't pay as well as it used to becaue workers, hunters, and foragers turn up empty alot. Berzerkers and warriors are what is needed to get decent drops. Have never died there, but take some damage, especially once I get to somewhat burdened. Don't have to rely on pummel, but if there are more than 4 or so critters around, pummel is used more frequently to get the critter count down. Based on what I know, Berserkers and warriors are the only things that are within the (-5) level tolerance, before the penalty would kick in. Thus why the workers, hunters, and foragers drop less....though, the lesser creatures can still get some good hits in when you are fighting 2 Berserkers and a warrior.

Grags just doesn't pay yet. Takes too long to take them out yet. They do more damage to me. And, they are less abundant. All combined, the risk and damage vs. the gain is worse than the Fen. Experience wise, they do well, but the quantity factor in the fen more than makes up for this. Grags are above my level, I can beat them....but, no real incentive to take the risk seeing that the value per period of time spent is lower. With security max'd, I can't pick the boxes, though I've had no problem finding a helping hand when needed.

Arackuses (or is it Aracki ?) definately aren't worth it. I can beat them after a fairly long battle. If 2 hatch on me, it's time to move rooms or hide. Plenty of being stunned and bleeding. BUT, I'd do it and take the risk if there was an upside to it. Problem is I can do better in the Fen in a shorter time, with less damage, even with not getting drops from the lesser creatures there.

Kamos on Chodaku are decent. Just a bit of a pain to take risks up on Chodaku. Low population there, so it's hard to find a medic or worse someone to rift/call you back to CC. Though, I'll admit unless it is in the wee hours, I always find a helping hand when I really need one. Actually, one of the biggest problems is that because it takes a while to get there (unless you get mage/tracker help), it is a pain to get the boxes you collect picked. If you can't pick your own, then you reach a burden point where you really must find someone to pick the boxes for you and sell off some of the stuff (crat time too). I do love Chodaku and it would be great if there were quick ways for the general population to get there and back to Llanfair (well, back is easy via rifting).

No bitching or moaning going on here, just telling my experiences, decision making, and such based on how the changes affect my behavior. Possible suggestion, that I think is in line with what others have voiced is, there should be at least a small bonus to hunting something bigger and badder than you are yourself. This doesn't need to, and probably shouldn't, increase as fast as the penalty decreases for the same level difference. But, I enjoy trying differeent areas and creatures. I like to challenge my character. There is a different thrill to hunting above yourself, which alone is worth still doing it sometimes...problem is you might have more in hospital bills than the treasure you make. A small lucky increase for hunting say +5, +10, +20, etc. would add a bit of spice to the choice of where to hunt that night. As always though, you have to becareful of how can this be abused. I understand that...could someone manipulate their skills or the parameters of the game to reduce their risk and still hunt significantly above their level?

[HR-Trevor]

Thanks for the feedback.
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[Warner]

You search a mottled gragrok and find $32 in cash!
You search a mottled gragrok and find some tandrum weed!
A mottled gragrok corpse decays away.
>look weed
Some tandrum weed is poisonous if ingested.
There appears to be eleven units worth of tandrum weed.

thats...sad, anyways at level 23 with a pulse gun in hand
which critter should i hunt for optimal treasure? IYO?
im actually asking for advice heh since um i dont feel like continuing to challenge myself overhunting and getting underpaid.
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[Kit]

http://tech.haelrahv.net/creatures.html

Elder kamos...or koru hunters. Yeah, you pretty much are in a gap like I am. Kit hunted in the fen...eh...he still does to maintain his alignment actually. I'd just stick with being there for a bit.
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[Warner]

019 Borkin Warrior Evil Yes Yes Yes Pierce Electric
022 Elder Kamohakun Evil Yes No Yes Blunt Cold
I pointed out both blunt and electric for two reasons.
Since the change hunting with unarmed IMO is too fatigue draining
and as of yet i dont have the strength to bodyslam an elder kamo
I dont use potions incombat because i hate the (you have to swallow this after x minutes) crap just to keep moving at standard efficiency.
im assuming unarmed does blunt damage, electrical damage resistance means i'd have to dig the pea shooter back out, which i dont really mind doing anyways.
Still think there should be a +x level pad for overhunters that goes higher then 5,but we're not supposed to be able to hunt five levels higher as i understand it.
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