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SoulTorn Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet
Joined: 20 Nov 2002 Posts: 685 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:59 pm Post subject: Elemental Request |
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Assuming these are to continue showing up.
Can we get them renamed? It's rather annoying to suddenly find oneself being beat down by something one was seemingly demolishing moments before.
Perhaps seperate them into 'Lesser' and 'Greater' varieties?
Example:
You also see a greater shadow elemental, a lesser water elemental, a greater fire elemental and a lesser shadow elemental.
This way I know which I just shouldn't bother with.
-Chris _________________ "Drama is like a varm sveater that hugs you on a cold vinter's day." - Nevrek |
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HR-Beau The Good Fairy
Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 1057 Location: Aena Sur, Isle of Esia
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:21 am Post subject: |
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At this point I don't have any plans to modify their strengths, resistances, or whatever. They've been pretty much the same since I settled on a happy, deadly, medium that first night. _________________ If there is one thing in the world that I know, love conquers all, it trancends time and space, defies all odds, and can bring you back from the darkness, it is the guiding light that helps bring you in from the rough stormy seas of life, and it remains even after you have gone.
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soundless EIGHT YEARS OLD!!!
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 5970 Location: Spaceship
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:24 am Post subject: |
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following the whole risk/reward thing...
...what's the point of fighting elementals, as opposed to just running away like a nancy boy?
they don't drop anything, as far as i know of.
i mean, elementals are cool to fight, and they're a good challenge, but i'm not sure what the reward for kicking butt is yet. :p _________________ A bright-eyed Thekko Ku Kalla dressed in a dapper sailor suit takes to flight and careers through the air toward the Modan Kucho and slams into him!
With a high-pitched cry, The Modan Kucho collapses in death. |
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Tugor Orgasm Donor
Joined: 18 Oct 2003 Posts: 1483 Location: Yeah. . .right.
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:50 am Post subject: |
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You get a medal that reads: "I killed a <insert type here> elemental".
EDIT: A cool idea would be to have a unique treasure for each elemental. Like elemental shards or something. A rare drop but worth a decent amount of money. What's decent? $10k a shard? I dunno. . . _________________ It is better to be pissed off than pissed on. |
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zamde Maestro
Joined: 06 Nov 2003 Posts: 211
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:05 am Post subject: |
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soundless wrote: |
f...what's the point of fighting elementals, as opposed to just running away like a nancy boy?
they don't drop anything, as far as i know of. |
...Kit? _________________ An eye for an eye; but my eye's worth more.
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SoulTorn Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet
Joined: 20 Nov 2002 Posts: 685 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:01 am Post subject: |
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At this point I don't have any plans to modify their strengths, resistances, or whatever. They've been pretty much the same since I settled on a happy, deadly, medium that first night. |
I am fine with their stats.
There are, however, two varieties of elementals wandering about.
The first, which typically 'start' an invasion, are relatively weak. I can use Paralysis on them. I can Mind Wipe them. I can kill them fairly easily.
The second, which spawn in the shrines and(like last night) consist of a 'second wave' I cannot use Paralysis on. I cannot Mind Wipe. I cannot kill.
They both look exactly the same.
Since I am guessing this is unintentional...I suppose renaming one variety doesn't matter. Just get rid of one.
-Chris _________________ "Drama is like a varm sveater that hugs you on a cold vinter's day." - Nevrek |
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SoulTorn Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet
Joined: 20 Nov 2002 Posts: 685 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:05 am Post subject: |
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In case it helps: I noticed the second variety appeared shortly after Zamde played that hippy peace song.
This occured at approximately 8:53PM, EST.
-Chris _________________ "Drama is like a varm sveater that hugs you on a cold vinter's day." - Nevrek |
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soundless EIGHT YEARS OLD!!!
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 5970 Location: Spaceship
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:06 am Post subject: |
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SoulTorn wrote: |
In case it helps: I noticed the second variety appeared shortly after Zamde played that hippy peace song.
This occured at approximately 8:53PM, EST.
-Chris |
zamde needs to stop provoking evil. _________________ A bright-eyed Thekko Ku Kalla dressed in a dapper sailor suit takes to flight and careers through the air toward the Modan Kucho and slams into him!
With a high-pitched cry, The Modan Kucho collapses in death. |
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Tugor Orgasm Donor
Joined: 18 Oct 2003 Posts: 1483 Location: Yeah. . .right.
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:22 am Post subject: |
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Yea, Tshar was killing the shadow elementals then all of a suddenl he couldn't hit them and they start landing critical hits and shit. So annoying. _________________ It is better to be pissed off than pissed on. |
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HR-Beau The Good Fairy
Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 1057 Location: Aena Sur, Isle of Esia
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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The only recent change made to the elementals that I know of applies to the shadow ones only...they no longer are susceptible to paralysis.
As for box dropping, while shards are not a bad idea, I'm thinking that 10k is just....really messed up as a figure. They're non-corporeal beings most of the time, and not even really aware of things going on in this world, except for some of the more powerful ones who just don't like folks different from them.
If I had my druthers, shadow elementals would attack other elementals along with people, and the guards would attack anything with negative alignment that moved past. But this isn't something the combat system can handle at this point, and I don't feel comfortable asking Marduk to drop everything he's doing to add it. Unless he just really wants to, then I'll give him a lap dance or something.
The thing about elementals is....like any other creature, they're going to occasionally hit anyone, and chances are they're going to hit hard when they do. I've noticed that its very rare for them to NOT stun on the first hit.
When dealing with elementals, its always best to work together in groups, and I saw some splendid groupwork last night...something that isn't always required of you during an invasion. _________________ If there is one thing in the world that I know, love conquers all, it trancends time and space, defies all odds, and can bring you back from the darkness, it is the guiding light that helps bring you in from the rough stormy seas of life, and it remains even after you have gone.
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Tugor Orgasm Donor
Joined: 18 Oct 2003 Posts: 1483 Location: Yeah. . .right.
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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So how do you explain that we, those who were fighting them, noticed their sudden increase in power\strength? It couldn't have been luck, there's no way it could have gone from being able to hit them and parry\defend decently against them ----> to not being able to hit them AT ALL and getting hit consectutively with no chance of defense. That's how it was for Tshar, they got stronger, there's no doubt there. He was aiming and hitting them just fine, then suddenly he couldn't hit them at all, fully aimed shots while kneeling, no chance, tried many many times. _________________ It is better to be pissed off than pissed on. |
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Platinumyan Master Plush ;(
Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 110
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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Tugor wrote: |
So how do you explain that we, those who were fighting them, noticed their sudden increase in power\strength? It couldn't have been luck, there's no way it could have gone from being able to hit them and parry\defend decently against them ----> to not being able to hit them AT ALL and getting hit consectutively with no chance of defense. That's how it was for Tshar, they got stronger, there's no doubt there. He was aiming and hitting them just fine, then suddenly he couldn't hit them at all, fully aimed shots while kneeling, no chance, tried many many times. |
Kneeling helps in shooting?
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Tugor Orgasm Donor
Joined: 18 Oct 2003 Posts: 1483 Location: Yeah. . .right.
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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From what I can tell, it does indeed. Everytime I shoot a few times standing, missing, I try kneeling and hit. Luck? Who knows, but results say it all.
EDIT: Credit goes to Yaru for teaching me the kneeling thing. I let him test it IG and Yaru can hit Tshar with a fully aimed shot from missile but only if he's kneeling. That's 212 marks vs 253 evasion with like stats on both ends. _________________ It is better to be pissed off than pissed on. |
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HR-Mickey Cloverfield Monster
Joined: 24 Nov 2002 Posts: 1844 Location: I've Got No 'billy
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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Brokyn LLAMA SECHS
Joined: 19 Oct 2002 Posts: 3648 Location: Northern Georgia
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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I think the stink is coming up over how a group of people were able to attack the elementals with relative ease, and then all of the sudden they were uber-hard to attack. Not that people were actually getting hit/injured.
I'm just going to offer the option that everyone could've just been having really shitty luck with their rolls. Coincidences do happen.
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