Engagement in the Fens

[Morgana]

I've not heard exactly what it's suppose to be like.

So far when hunting in the fens with another young mage I couldn't retreat fast enough to leave the room. All the critters had to be killed to leave.
If I hid and retreated that worked well. But the young mage I was with couldn't hide from them.
Mages generally like to use spells when hunting but this mage couldn't retreat well enough to use them effectively and the higher powered spells backfired nearly killing him again.
When I hid and retreated and attempted to drag him away I couldn't because he was engaged. He was retreating but six critters all advancing kept at least two at pole at all times.

I think retreating needs to be sped up, a person not engaged should be able to drag another out of danger, and only so many critters should be allowed to advance ( i.e. a forager stops advancing since there's no room and goes to another room)
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yeah, this is the big thing i noticed when hunting beetles (unless they stopped engaging, too).

when i ran out of ammo, i had to spam ripple just so the damn things stopped advancing long enough for me to leave.
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[HR-Marduk]

A> You can already drag people out of combat.

B> Flee is a much faster version of retreat for getting out of combat quickly.
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[Morgana]

I couldn't drag the young mage out because he was engaged. At least that was the messaging. I also never heard of flee, but doesn't seem to work in the fen along with leap and dash.

I didn't save it but another did in the room

[Tugor]

[the blue fairy]

I have yet to test this out, but its not supposed to be easy to run from combat, we need more risk involved in hunting and this is one of those things, its possible the area is just above your skills, or that it does need tweaked down a lil, just keep in mind its not supposed to be a fail safe way to get away from a critter. I imagine there are skill checks involved in your being able to retreat from combat. My understanding is that flee is supposed to be a sure thing (if it is working properly) course my opinion is that it should have a negative affect on you somehow if you do it repeatedly.
As far as retreat time compare it to advance time, is it really that slow?
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[Morgana]

I think the fen critters are quite a bit below me.
As to retreating it was that with six to ten critters advancing there was always two to three at pole preventing me from leaving.
Didn't know about 'flee' until I went back to look at September posts.
Maybe the engagement descriptions should be revisited. There are many younger players not understanding at all, or players like me that have avoided combat for the most part.
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it would also be awesome if there was a hangback command. i hate having to wait unitl someone advances before i start trying to stay at missle. also hate having to type retreat over and over if i actually get all the way out but want to keep staying back there.
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[Kit]

As a 45th tech with fully (triple) trained tactics and my agility at 50, I couldn't retreat enough in the fens to get away. When I was at 5% health I panicked and had to use my tower talisman and run up to the ER. There were 4 opponents.

And the scroll is insane. I have to squelch like mad. I'll attempt to use flee later, but I was really disturbed by how easily things at that level can beat my down.
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[HR-Marduk]

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what determines retreat ability, anyway.

agility, tactics..?
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[Kit]

Did some tests. Flee takes me on average 9 seconds of RT and sucks up stamina like a starving baby.

[SolitaryTurnip]

How often are you supposed to get a "you retreat from an X and are now at missile range" message? Does that means that X is advancing and I'm retreating and we're kinda staying together, or are there several tiers of missile range or something like that?

[Morgana]

HR-Marduk wrote:

[SolitaryTurnip]