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soundless EIGHT YEARS OLD!!!
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 5970 Location: Spaceship
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:24 pm Post subject: looms |
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awesome surprise, i wasn't expecting these until after the new skill system rolled out.
thanks a ton, valla. my only gripe will be when this tent poofs on me.
a lot of tailoring stuff to play with, and no time to do it! _________________ A bright-eyed Thekko Ku Kalla dressed in a dapper sailor suit takes to flight and careers through the air toward the Modan Kucho and slams into him!
With a high-pitched cry, The Modan Kucho collapses in death. |
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HR-Valla
Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Posts: 176 Location: Siren Cove
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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Once the fest is over, the Silken Fold will have a new home. Never Fear young Artisan man! _________________ ~Well behaved women rarely make history~
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soundless EIGHT YEARS OLD!!!
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 5970 Location: Spaceship
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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and the dye guy?
::greedy::
_________________ A bright-eyed Thekko Ku Kalla dressed in a dapper sailor suit takes to flight and careers through the air toward the Modan Kucho and slams into him!
With a high-pitched cry, The Modan Kucho collapses in death. |
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Brokyn LLAMA SECHS
Joined: 19 Oct 2002 Posts: 3648 Location: Northern Georgia
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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Just to let everyone know, so we don't go through this again, looms are Artisan-only.
--William _________________
Haelrahv Wiki!
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soundless EIGHT YEARS OLD!!!
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 5970 Location: Spaceship
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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oh, and because the world would end if i didn't find odd bugs...
1) I can't grade unfinished containers using skeined fabrics.
2) Items made with skeined fabrics can't be sold anywhere. _________________ A bright-eyed Thekko Ku Kalla dressed in a dapper sailor suit takes to flight and careers through the air toward the Modan Kucho and slams into him!
With a high-pitched cry, The Modan Kucho collapses in death. |
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TheTrackerChick Babe of Doom
Joined: 15 Jul 2003 Posts: 569
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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 12:16 am Post subject: |
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Just to let everyone know, so we don't go through this again, looms are Artisan-only. |
Problem is not everyone has access to the boards to know that. _________________ All explorers are seeking something they have lost. It is seldom they find it, and more seldom still that the attainment brings them greater happiness than the quest. |
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soundless EIGHT YEARS OLD!!!
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 5970 Location: Spaceship
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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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This hand loom must be warped before you can begin to weave upon it. |
it says this even when it is warped. not sure if the look is more a reminder of the verbs to use or an actual indicator of what the next step is. _________________ A bright-eyed Thekko Ku Kalla dressed in a dapper sailor suit takes to flight and careers through the air toward the Modan Kucho and slams into him!
With a high-pitched cry, The Modan Kucho collapses in death. |
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soundless EIGHT YEARS OLD!!!
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 5970 Location: Spaceship
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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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is it possible to up the values of the items made with the new fabrics?
it takes me ~1 1/2 minutes to warp a loom, and ~4 minutes to weave a jada eyelet sheet (i don't know if both of those times may be reduced with skill, but there's not much more room for improvement that i can make in terms of stats and skills, i think, anyway).
edit: i also know that ~5 minutes total isn't a monumental amount of time or anything. it's more that i figure if someone is processing this stuff, then the actual value of the sheet would really be more than $450. i think that makes some sense. so this isn't a 'oh god it takes FOREVER,' just more that i'm pointing out it's more than just buying a fabric and playing with it. there is at least a skill and time investment.
i also figure a processed sheet of the new material would be worth more than just the raw skein's price, right?
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lumis swatch: $55
scroll case: $275 |
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lumis sheet: $165
backpack: $575
trench coat: $825
gown: $800
corset: $750 |
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small jada skein: $250
scroll case: $325 |
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large jada skein: $450
backpack: $1,150
trench coat: $1,625
gown: $1,575
corset: $1,450 |
while i'd love if the sheet items would be worth more, i especially would like the swatch (and i figure square) items to get a pretty good price boost.
the way i see it, jada eyelet is the getok skin of skeins (uh, and those are the hardest skein and skin to get, right? i'm just basing that on the notable price tag it has in comparison to everything else and the fact that getok are pretty badass skinables), and i know finalized large-sized getok items go for $4,000ish, with the small ones going for $2,000ish. granted, i also realize that it's a lot safer to make a sheet than kill/skin a getok, but i'd really hope that the price can jump up some more all around.
as of right now, the large items sell for the same price as gragrok items (i think, i'm on my school laptop so i dont have the numbers infront of me) and the scroll case is a lot lot worse than gragrok (those go for $750ish, i think).
i also completely understand that the money can't be too rewarding, because we both know very well that i intend to sit around pumping these things out for cash. but i'd still like to see a slight price increase.
edit: i also understand completely that the first two price tweaks were justified, especially the first one, which i'm sure was just an outright bug. the second one was more tweaking for the sake of balance, and while i agree even that price was too much i think the tweak took it way too low, at least in my demented, greedy mind.
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Coordination : 130 (147)
Mentality : 83 (84)
Perception : 120 (122) |
skills with loom:
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Tailoring : 171 (244)
Craftsmanship : 171 (241) |
skills without loom:
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Tailoring : 171 (231)
Craftsmanship : 171 (229) |
another minor bug: when i look at woven fabrics, i get a blank line. no 'you see nothing special', no 'you see an awesome fabric yaru made', no nothing. _________________ A bright-eyed Thekko Ku Kalla dressed in a dapper sailor suit takes to flight and careers through the air toward the Modan Kucho and slams into him!
With a high-pitched cry, The Modan Kucho collapses in death. |
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soundless EIGHT YEARS OLD!!!
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 5970 Location: Spaceship
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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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i'm double posting because that previous one is big enough as it is...
i just tested making a cotton scroll case, and that sells for almost $300.
so the $12 skein can be processed and made into a scroll case that is almost the same price as the $250 skein.
that makes me believe something buggy is about, or that i'm going to have a lot of testing that i planned to do anyway ahead of me tonight.
but i love testing these systems out, so everything is okay.
that means i love this system, honest. _________________ A bright-eyed Thekko Ku Kalla dressed in a dapper sailor suit takes to flight and careers through the air toward the Modan Kucho and slams into him!
With a high-pitched cry, The Modan Kucho collapses in death. |
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soundless EIGHT YEARS OLD!!!
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 5970 Location: Spaceship
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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is it possible that weaving a swatch of canvas can be faster than weaving a sheet of jabo eyelet? right now they seem to take the same amount of time, unless i was miscounting.
edit: no idea if you changed this or not, but i do notice that a small jabo skein takes 4 weaves, and large ones take 10 (i'd try medium to but who cares about those!). so maybe i was just oblivious. but i still say a canvas skein should finish faster than a jabo eyelet!
it's just possible that all this weaving is making me go crazy. very very possible. _________________ A bright-eyed Thekko Ku Kalla dressed in a dapper sailor suit takes to flight and careers through the air toward the Modan Kucho and slams into him!
With a high-pitched cry, The Modan Kucho collapses in death. |
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Liddia Never underestimate the power of a female
Joined: 29 Sep 2004 Posts: 19 Location: In her own lil world
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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I just made a canvas scroll case, which the fabric cost $10.00, ok add in the warping thread and it's $12.00. I sold the scroll case, and it was worth $3.00. Needless to say, I will not be making anymore scroll cases _________________ ~Liddia~
Never underestimate the power of a female |
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Liddia Never underestimate the power of a female
Joined: 29 Sep 2004 Posts: 19 Location: In her own lil world
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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Are should I say Fabric scroll cases. _________________ ~Liddia~
Never underestimate the power of a female |
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Liddia Never underestimate the power of a female
Joined: 29 Sep 2004 Posts: 19 Location: In her own lil world
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks bunches from the Loom's Valla, You made this LiL Artsian very happy!!!! _________________ ~Liddia~
Never underestimate the power of a female |
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soundless EIGHT YEARS OLD!!!
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 5970 Location: Spaceship
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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i have a giant giant datasheet showing the values of scroll cases and trench coats made of each fabric, weaved and sold. i'll post it tonight. _________________ A bright-eyed Thekko Ku Kalla dressed in a dapper sailor suit takes to flight and careers through the air toward the Modan Kucho and slams into him!
With a high-pitched cry, The Modan Kucho collapses in death. |
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HR-Mickey Cloverfield Monster
Joined: 24 Nov 2002 Posts: 1844 Location: I've Got No 'billy
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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The values are going to get looked at. At present, we opted for a "go low and work our way up" approach to balancing them out, rather than stick to the pre-change $40k gown and work downwards. _________________ Mickey Brunner
To make a long story short, don't tell it.
I may be going nowhere, but I'm going nowhere fast.
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Kelvin Watt says, "I stopped drinking coke when no longer drinking beer didn't make my gut disappear."
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Kaelin Rae says, "Wait a minute..."
Kaelin Rae says, "You mean they have a COKE machine that dispenses beer."
Kaelin Rae nods to you.
Kaelin Rae says, "Greaser."
Kaelin Rae looks at you and sighs. |
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