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 Post Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 3:36 pm    Post subject: Armor/Weapon Quality
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Appraisal will now show the proper protection/damage for armor/weapons, with the bonuses for quality applied. Appraisal skill, intelligence, and armor/weapon quality factor into the ability to get an accurate reading.

Weapon quality was not properly applying damage bonuses in combat, which should be fixed sometime this week.
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 Post Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 3:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Armor/Weapon Quality
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Appraisal will now show the proper protection/damage for armor/weapons, with the bonuses for quality applied. Appraisal skill, intelligence, and armor/weapon quality factor into the ability to get an accurate reading.

Weapon quality was not properly applying damage bonuses in combat, which should be fixed sometime this week.


argh. another reason to need to train appraisal! damn you all! Razz

does something high quality require more skill to appraise it, or less? i know i completely suck at appraisial (ie: i have 0 (1Cool in it), but i'm unable to even remotely get an assessment of my uniform and rifle. and with 75 (84) intel, i figured i would at least get something less than being completely oblivious.

thanks a ton for the update. final question! does armor skill help the way an armor protects?
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 Post Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:01 pm    Post subject:
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More.

And no.

Keep in mind your uniform is pretty much maxed out as far as quality goes (it's possible to get higher quality armor, but not by any means readily available to players), so you'll have to find someone with a respectable skill level to appraise it accurately. (You're not completely oblivious. By my numbers, you're somewhere around half-oblivious.)
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 Post Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:04 pm    Post subject:
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alrighty. i wasn't sure if better quality meant easier or harder. makes sense that it's so hard now. thanks. Smile

ps: first cabochons, now this. what is this, force yaru's player to want to invest in appraisal day? Wink

edit: is it possible to add a 'you feel certain this is right' once someone is way way over the required skill to appraise a certain quality?
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 Post Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:18 pm    Post subject:
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edit: is it possible to add a 'you feel certain this is right' once someone is way way over the required skill to appraise a certain quality?


Once you can see the quality you're within a pretty small range of the actuall appraissal.
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 Post Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:24 pm    Post subject:
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edit: is it possible to add a 'you feel certain this is right' once someone is way way over the required skill to appraise a certain quality?


Once you can see the quality you're within a pretty small range of the actuall appraissal.


ah, okay. thanks Smile

once again, while it sucks i have to train appraisal now, i'm glad i have yet another reason to finally start doing so. the tweaks are appreciated.
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 Post Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 6:05 pm    Post subject:
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Damn what happened to Tshar's armor?

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>app my armor
A suit of blackened steel combat armor etched with glowing runes is classified as heavy armor.
It appears to be of unbelievable quality and workmanship.
This armor provides slight protection against blunt damage.
This armor provides no protection against cold damage.
This armor provides no protection against electrical damage.
This armor provides slight protection against erosion damage.
This armor provides slight protection against heat and fire damage.
This armor provides poor protection against piercing damage.
This armor provides slight protection against slashing damage.
This armor provides no protection against magics.
This armor provides no protection against psionics.
It appears this armor provides protection for the entire body.
Considering your current armor in addition to a suit of blackened steel combat armor etched with glowing runes you would be much better off completely avoiding this armor.
If you were using only a suit of blackened steel combat armor etched with glowing runes you would be much better off completely avoiding this armor.
You are confident that a suit of blackened steel combat armor etched with glowing runes is worth close to $168388.
Roundtime: 10 sec.


Paper would offer more protection. That's my 'crat appraising it with 159 appraisal and 110 intell. I also had him check on the Temhuk Scale armor at Kings Ransom which is what this armor is altered from. . .

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>app tem armor
A suit of temhuk scale armor is classified as heavy armor.
It appears to be of very good quality and workmanship.
This armor provides no protection against blunt damage.
This armor provides no protection against cold damage.
This armor provides no protection against electrical damage.
This armor provides no protection against erosion damage.
This armor provides no protection against heat and fire damage.
This armor provides no protection against piercing damage.
This armor provides no protection against slashing damage.
This armor provides no protection against magics.
This armor provides no protection against psionics.
It appears this armor provides protection for the entire body.
Considering your current armor in addition to a suit of temhuk scale armor you would be much better off completely avoiding this armor.
If you were using only a suit of temhuk scale armor you would be much better off completely avoiding this armor.
That item appears to be on sale for $76540.
Roundtime: 3 sec.


If it's being worked on as I post this, sorry for jumping to conclusions.
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 Post Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 6:25 pm    Post subject:
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ack, now i'm concerned as to what yaru's remarkable quality full body poudrach scale armor apps at.
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 Post Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 7:42 pm    Post subject:
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This is Inairas.

With 2 points short of 400 between Intelligence, appraisal and light armor. Is 'appears' as high as I should only be getting in the quality?

A suit of darkened poudrach scale armor etched with creeping thorned vines is classified as light armor.
It appears to be of remarkable quality and workmanship.
This armor provides slight protection against blunt damage.
This armor provides no protection against cold damage.
This armor provides no protection against electrical damage.
This armor provides slight protection against erosion damage.
This armor provides slight protection against heat and fire damage.
This armor provides slight protection against piercing damage.
This armor provides slight protection against slashing damage.
This armor provides no protection against magics.
This armor provides no protection against psionics.
It appears this armor provides protection for the entire body.
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 Post Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 8:20 pm    Post subject:
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This armor provides slight protection against blunt damage.
This armor provides no protection against cold damage.
This armor provides no protection against electrical damage.
This armor provides slight protection against erosion damage.
This armor provides slight protection against heat and fire damage.
This armor provides slight protection against piercing damage.
This armor provides slight protection against slashing damage.
This armor provides no protection against magics.
This armor provides no protection against psionics.
It appears this armor provides protection for the entire body.


Fixed.
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 Post Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 9:12 pm    Post subject:
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On a related note, the bonus to armor protection based on quality has been reduced, as it was much too high.
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 Post Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 4:37 am    Post subject:
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by the by, i can appraise my uniform and rifle now and see the quality. i'm not quite sure why (not like i'm complaining... but i'm not sure if the difficulty was lowered intentionally).

also, would quality ever reflect how well something works at different ranges?
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 Post Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 5:26 pm    Post subject:
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A silvery-green vyeftium tower shield emblazoned with a shimmering psionic symbol is classified as a shield.
You are certain it is of very good quality and workmanship.
This armor provides slight protection against blunt damage.
This armor provides slight protection against cold damage.
This armor provides god-like protection against electrical damage.
This armor provides slight protection against erosion damage.
This armor provides slight protection against heat and fire damage.
This armor provides slight protection against piercing damage.
This armor provides slight protection against slashing damage.
This armor provides fair protection against magics.
This armor provides fair protection against psionics.
It appears this armor provides protection for the entire body.
Considering your current armor in addition to a silvery-green vyeftium tower shield emblazoned with a shimmering psionic symbol you would not be hindered by this armor.
If you were using only a silvery-green vyeftium tower shield emblazoned with a shimmering psionic symbol you would not be hindered by this armor.



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A suit of black compressed klulza footman's armor is classified as light armor.
You are certain it is of very good quality and workmanship.
This armor provides fairly good protection against blunt damage.
This armor provides poor protection against cold damage.
This armor provides slight protection against electrical damage.
This armor provides fairly good protection against erosion damage.
This armor provides decent protection against heat and fire damage.
This armor provides fairly good protection against piercing damage.
This armor provides fairly good protection against slashing damage.
This armor provides no protection against magics.
This armor provides no protection against psionics.
It appears this armor provides protection for the entire body.
Considering your current armor in addition to a suit of black compressed klulza footman's armor you would not be hindered by this armor.
If you were using only a suit of black compressed klulza footman's armor you would not be hindered by this armor.


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Resistances:
 
Blunt        : Good            Magic        : Low           
Cold         : Superb          Mental       : Excellent     
Electrical   : Superb          Piercing     : Good         
Erosion      : Superb          Poison       : Susceptible   
Heat         : Superb          Slashing     : Good         
 


Huzzah for being a tank. Now I just have to find time to actually go and hunt something.
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 Post Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 5:51 pm    Post subject:
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The quality of a weapon was not modifying the damage done in combat properly, which should now be fixed.

In addition, you will now need an appropriate amount of skill in the related weapon to get the full bonus from weapon quality.
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 Post Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 11:17 pm    Post subject:
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In addition, you will now need an appropriate amount of skill in the related weapon to get the full bonus from weapon quality.


Thank you for the updates, just curious why the skill requirement?
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