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Josie Everyone wants to be me!
Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 499 Location: Where the hell am i?
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 1:12 am Post subject: Skills it takes to Learn Tomes |
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I had a friend ask me and truthfully, I never really thought about writing it down so I have no clue. Is there anyway we can get a list of exactly how much skill you need in Alchemy to learn each tome? _________________ Neifl Cacambo - "Anyone have change for a tampon?"
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HR-Hunter
Joined: 06 Sep 2002 Posts: 564 Location: [Deep Wilderness Shrine, Haelrahv]
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 1:15 am Post subject: |
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Generally, careful player experimentation is how one gets the exact answers to those kind of questions. _________________ ~Hunter~ |
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Kelasa
Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Posts: 363
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 2:06 am Post subject: |
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In order to be able to study a tome you need x3 the alchemy skill (base before any bonuses) of the formula number. Now just because a tome on the shelf is 5 doesn't mean it's 5 (more specifically 12 which requires 42 skill cause there's some unreleased formula inbetween).
Now Research will play in once you are able to study the tome, by reducing the time needed to study it overall.
Kelasa _________________ One must have knowledge beyond learning, and wisdom beyond understanding to say what can or cannot be. |
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Brokyn LLAMA SECHS
Joined: 19 Oct 2002 Posts: 3648 Location: Northern Georgia
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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I was under the impression that Intelligence factors in as well, though that could be heresay.
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HR-Trevor Boss Type Guy
Joined: 04 Oct 2002 Posts: 6683 Location: Louisville, KY
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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Intelligence and research will both allow you to learn a tome more quickly. Neither are requirements to actually learn the mixture though. Since intellect affects how quickly your exp pool fills, and tomes teach well, it is also quite useful in getting more exp from each study as well. _________________ "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." -- Plato
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Trathyn
Joined: 25 Jun 2003 Posts: 46
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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In order to be able to study a tome you need x3 the alchemy skill (base before any bonuses) of the formula number. |
Im not sure that is accurate...
With 24 alchemy and 24 research I was able to learn the first
11 potions.
I have since then increased to 26 alchemy and 26 research
and am still unable to learn the 12th (luminescent tome).
Anyway, for the first 11 tomes it was less than 3x per tome overall.
Sorry I didnt record what I had for each Tome.
Hope this helps some though...
BTW anyone know what potion the "luminescent tome" teaches? _________________ Traythyn Darkwater
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Josie Everyone wants to be me!
Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 499 Location: Where the hell am i?
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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i know that there are some missing potions which makes the 12th potion take longer to learn, not sure what the As Kelasa said in her post... (more specifically 12 which requires 42 skill cause there's some unreleased formula inbetween). And the 12th potion is Elixir of Quickness, which grants one supernatural speed when consumed.
Hope that helps you,
josie _________________ Neifl Cacambo - "Anyone have change for a tampon?"
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HR-Trevor Boss Type Guy
Joined: 04 Oct 2002 Posts: 6683 Location: Louisville, KY
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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There is no set gap between potions. _________________ "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." -- Plato
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Tylen Alpha Antifemale
Joined: 29 Jul 2003 Posts: 1192 Location: Not Colorado
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 2:29 am Post subject: |
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Well with 51 alchemy, I still can't study the 13th formula. So if they're all really 3 points apart, there must be several between #12 and #13. |
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HR-Trevor Boss Type Guy
Joined: 04 Oct 2002 Posts: 6683 Location: Louisville, KY
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 7:31 am Post subject: |
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Here are the tome descriptions, their respective mixture names, and their "number" in the alchemy list. I didn't note skill req, because I agree with Hunter.
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a yellowed tome --> Tincture of Healing (1)
a tattered tome --> Tincture of Vigor (2)
a worn tome --> Potion of Might (3)
a slightly-used tome --> Potion of Resilience (4)
a battered tome --> Potion of Agility (5)
a ripped tome --> Potion of Deftness (6)
a faded tome --> Infusion of Allure (7)
an old tome --> Infusion of Brilliance (8)
a stained tome --> Infusion of Clarity (9)
an aged tome --> Infusion of Sight (10)
a black tome --> Elixir of Night (11)
a luminescent tome --> Elixir of Quickness (13)
a red tome --> Tincture of Life (15)
a deep gray tome --> Tincture of Magic (16)
a heavy tome --> Elixir of Invisibility (19)
a thick tome --> Potion of Deflection (21)
a light tome --> Potion of Invulnerability (22)
a sable tome --> Potion of Clashing (23) |
_________________ "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." -- Plato
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HR-Trevor Boss Type Guy
Joined: 04 Oct 2002 Posts: 6683 Location: Louisville, KY
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 7:33 am Post subject: |
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Also remember that the alchemy skill needed to study a tome is raw skill, excluding any bonuses/mods. _________________ "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." -- Plato
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Josie Everyone wants to be me!
Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 499 Location: Where the hell am i?
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 9:57 am Post subject: |
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that does help alot Trevor thank you! _________________ Neifl Cacambo - "Anyone have change for a tampon?"
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>whack trevor
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Your swing knocked Trevor Rage down!
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HR-Trevor Boss Type Guy
Joined: 04 Oct 2002 Posts: 6683 Location: Louisville, KY
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 10:15 am Post subject: |
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I've added a few new tomes:
blue - rime potion (24)
scorched - searing potion (25)
silver - potion of dissipation (26)
green - potion of stability (27)
purple - iron will infusion (2 _________________ "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." -- Plato
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HR-Mickey Cloverfield Monster
Joined: 24 Nov 2002 Posts: 1844 Location: I've Got No 'billy
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 10:49 am Post subject: |
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Speaking of pieces of literature that only use raw skill, I just changed spellsong scrolls to work in the same fashion. Being able to learn it from the music is a guarantee you'll be able to perform it. _________________ Mickey Brunner
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Josie Everyone wants to be me!
Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 499 Location: Where the hell am i?
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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GASPS
New potions!!!
*drools all over herself as she runs to buy the tomes* _________________ Neifl Cacambo - "Anyone have change for a tampon?"
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>whack trevor
You forcefully swing your fluffy pillow at Trevor Rage and hit him on the rear sending feathers flying everywhere!
Your swing knocked Trevor Rage down!
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