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Seth Ventril
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 Post Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:20 am    Post subject: To Hit?
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Level: 48

Marksmanship: 150 (154)
Tactics: 96
Evasion: 144 (152)

Agility: 80 (81)
Coordination: 58
Mentality: 50 (55)
Perception: 40 (51)

Alright, with all of my statistics out of the way...Is there anyone who can attempt to tell me why I can't hit a single guard with my guns? And how they always manage to hit me? Is 2 promotions really that much of a difference, or is it a matter of my mentality/coord being too low?

*Edit* I've tried this with varying sorts of encumbrace, including not being encumbered at all and it didn't make a difference. I've also tried fighting them poorly balanced and normally balanced, and that didn't seem to help. They dodged and hit me too much for me to get to Incredibly balanced, so I didn't test with that.
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 Post Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:03 am    Post subject:
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it's possible that it's a mix of them being two levels higher plus them using shields. shields are notably more effective at blocking things than evasion,
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 Post Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:25 am    Post subject:
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Hm. Didn't think of that. I'll try again some more using my blades and seeing if that helps.

*Edit* Not that I expected this to work at all, but it didn't. I'll just wait til next promotion and try again.
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Victim: Well, what is the creed?
Assassin: It's very secret, passed down for hundreds of generations. If I told you, I'd have to kill you.
Victim: Aren't you already killing me anyway?
Assassin: That's a good point...The creed is..."Stick them with the pointy end." - Ctrl+Alt+Del parody of Assassin's Creed.
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TELEPATHY [close]:  Yaru Dex - "Great now you made Mickey cry. Thanks a lot, Seth."
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Korell Ventril exclaims, "Choo ain no guard! Choo a crackhead!"
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 Post Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:11 am    Post subject:
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Shields don't offer protection against guns though right?
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 Post Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:19 am    Post subject:
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From news 16:

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[Defense]
Evasion: Agility (primary), Mentality (secondary)
Parry : Coordination (primary), Mentality (secondary)
Shield : Coordination (primary), Strength (secondary)
 
>>Note 1: Parry cannot be used against projectiles such as bullets, magic
bolts, or arrows. Shield can be used against projectiles but not against
'cloud' or 'aura' type attacks such as the Icy Aura spell. Shields with
lightning resistance provide partial or full avoidance of electrical-based
spells.
>>Note 2: Shield defense is slightly more effective as a defense than parry,
and parry defense is more effective than evasion. Regardless, evasion defense
is a requirement to have a chance to defend against all forms of attack.

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Victim: Well, what is the creed?
Assassin: It's very secret, passed down for hundreds of generations. If I told you, I'd have to kill you.
Victim: Aren't you already killing me anyway?
Assassin: That's a good point...The creed is..."Stick them with the pointy end." - Ctrl+Alt+Del parody of Assassin's Creed.
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TELEPATHY [close]:  Yaru Dex - "Great now you made Mickey cry. Thanks a lot, Seth."
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 Post Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:20 am    Post subject:
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Ah. I couldn't remember exactly.
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 Post Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:46 am    Post subject:
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I'll tell you this much... as-is, you do have a chance to hit guards, but you're overall evenly matched. Your level is a factor, and yes, shields are superior to evasion all things being equal - unless of course you were using a cloud, aura, etc as indicated.

The biggest factor is that guards are considered to be in the Trooper profession and receive a 10% defensive skill bonus accordingly. You'd be hitting them fine if they were, for instance, Trackers.
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 Post Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:06 am    Post subject:
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Ah. I'm glad all is not as Daedalus said, and I do not in fact suck at combat.

Thanks a ton Trevor.
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Victim: Well, what is the creed?
Assassin: It's very secret, passed down for hundreds of generations. If I told you, I'd have to kill you.
Victim: Aren't you already killing me anyway?
Assassin: That's a good point...The creed is..."Stick them with the pointy end." - Ctrl+Alt+Del parody of Assassin's Creed.
---
TELEPATHY [close]:  Yaru Dex - "Great now you made Mickey cry. Thanks a lot, Seth."
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 Post Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:46 am    Post subject:
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Seth Ventril wrote:
Ah. I'm glad all is not as Daedalus said, and I do not in fact suck at combat.

Thanks a ton Trevor.


if it helps any if you were better in combat you would hit them better, so it kinda is because you, relatively, suck. Very Happy

to put actual value into the reply, i remember royal guards being kind of crappy in the treasure-dropping department, so if you plan to hunt them for loot you might be disappointed.
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 Post Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:43 pm    Post subject:
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HR-Trevor wrote:
I'll tell you this much... as-is, you do have a chance to hit guards, but you're overall evenly matched. Your level is a factor, and yes, shields are superior to evasion all things being equal - unless of course you were using a cloud, aura, etc as indicated.

The biggest factor is that guards are considered to be in the Trooper profession and receive a 10% defensive skill bonus accordingly. You'd be hitting them fine if they were, for instance, Trackers.


I heard that! Don't be dissin da Trackers Trevor! <runs> Just kidding! Heh.
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 Post Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:31 pm    Post subject:
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Hey now, if the guard was a Tracker using a bow or firearm...
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 Post Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:08 pm    Post subject:
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I'd be able to kill him, cause he wouldn't have the +10% to defenses! *cackles*
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Victim: Well, what is the creed?
Assassin: It's very secret, passed down for hundreds of generations. If I told you, I'd have to kill you.
Victim: Aren't you already killing me anyway?
Assassin: That's a good point...The creed is..."Stick them with the pointy end." - Ctrl+Alt+Del parody of Assassin's Creed.
---
TELEPATHY [close]:  Yaru Dex - "Great now you made Mickey cry. Thanks a lot, Seth."
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Korell Ventril exclaims, "Choo ain no guard! Choo a crackhead!"
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 Post Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:56 pm    Post subject:
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You can hunt with a Guardian who can WARD, it drops combat defenses/offensives a bit, not sure by how much though.
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