Arts and Crafts

[HR-Solphan]

[Brokyn]

I guess that would be better, Solphan. Maybe it could be made into a ladder-like system, too: at the beginning of the Tailor's career, they can only fit clothes by race.. later on, they can adjust the clothing by bodytype... and even later still, they can nearly perfect the clothing by taking in some height measurements.

::Shrug:: A line of adjectives could be added, too: loose -> snug -> perfectly fitted. Something like that.

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[HR-Satia]

[desiree]

I suppose it would be difficult to make all clothing race specific or relative to body size. It just seems silly that a pair of pants in DR would fit the same on a halfling and a Gor'tog. Maybe you simply add a size to the clothes so my petite tailor would buy a small size and tall jaddan would buy an XX large but maybe that would go without saying and explains how everyone can wear the same pants in DR, I don't know. However you couldn't resell the pants to a taller person because they wouldn't fit. You'd have to check the size first.

I do like the idea of tailoring, fitting cloths, making them and adding some details, like adding gems to gowns or butterfly appliques and stuff like that.
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[HR-Trevor]

I'm personally pretty much against race-specific clothing except in rare cases, if said clothing is magical or the race in question had ten arms or something. Humans, Darju, Eolai are roughly the same build in many cases given the overlap of heights and weights.

I'm not completely against various sizes based on height or something. Like perhaps a size 4 is meant for folks of 4 feet in height, give or take six inches or so. But this doesn't take into account weight or build.

We also have to consider that it's definitely going to happen that you have a much harder time finding clothes you want if sizes come into play. This is great for the tailor, but may be frustrating overall.

Just food for thought.
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[desiree]

I was just thinking it might be better in the long run to do this. I mean look at all the STUFF in DR. I just keeps getting bought and resold. Maybe clothes could get worn out, like in RL unless you take really good care of them. I guess I don't want as much 'junk' and fluff as is floating around DR right now it boggles the mind. I have like 4 vaults FULL of fluff I don't use, shouldn't some of it get eaten by moths or something by now? LOL
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[HR-Trevor]

<g> imagine how hard it would be to sell if you had to find a buyer with a matching build?
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[HR-Arden]

I'm 100% with Rich on the clothing sizes thing. I don't think it would add anything to the game in the long run, except maybe a big pain in the rear.

Sharing and swapping would be almost impossible, unless Artisans were able to "adjust" sizes. But again, that would just be too tedious.

Arden

[desiree]

Not even small, medium and large?

okay so maybe it was a crappy idea but will clothing/items wear out after awhile? Or will it linger on for infinity?
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[HR-Trevor]

I'm a proponent of breakage and wear-out, personally. As long as it's paced well.
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[desiree]

Would that make a nice poll question?

I too think that clothing and items should eventually wear out, not quickly, but over time I think they should degrade so that new articles of clothing and weapons need to be made. Maybe some rare items will never wear out. But if you have a bunch of people making clothes, armor and weapons it would decrease the value of their products if items never wore out.
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[HR-Trevor]

More opinions are welcome
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[HR-Satia]

How about if we approach it from the other side and make it so that the tailor has the ability to create special items based on their race. For example, let's pretend that the Darju have a knack for lace-up sleeves, so that particular pattern can only be used by tailors of that race. Once created, anyone is welcome to wear the finished item, but it can only be sewn by the Darju tailor. I think this approach makes a little more sense, and it still gives something special for each race. Now, if you like this approach, what items do you think should be specific to which races? Any ideas?

Thanks again for all the help,
-Satia

[HR-Beau]

I have to agree here with clothing not restricted to race or size. It kindof takes away from the role playing experience, and like Trevor said, the resale value of having to find someone who fits inside it. It's true the Eolai do have one material that's 'restricted' to their culture, however....that wouldn't stop anyone from another race from wearing it, instead it might increase your chance of having several Eolai immediately hire a mercenary to er....take you out since you'd offended them.
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[senseandviolets]

I agree clothes and weapons should eventually wear out. However rather than being based on time owned I think it would be more interesting to have this based on use.

For instance the blade of a character who focuses on non combat skills and hunts sparley shouldn't wear out as quickly as the blade of a characte who focuses on combat.

The criteria for clothes may be a little more tricky, of course quality would play into it, but I personally own some simple and cheap clothing that has lasted me years. It would be nice if it somehow implimented use as well. Perhaps hunting in clothing that's not covered by armor could cause wear, worn out knees and elbows, etc. that could possibly be patched by a tailor. Also sitting on items that are not furniture, climbing, swimming, etc. seem also likley to cause wear on ones clothes. And perhaps the inexplicable tearing of particularly low quality items at any given moment. (this could lead to much embarassment)

I could do without race specific sizes and possibly without being able to fit clothes to snug or loose, etc. It would add a small dash of realism, but I'd be more interested in alterations that were more versatile and obvious, something like sewing patches onto clothes, and mabye learning how to embroider patterns, or something more intricate by some other form of study, such as likenesses of asapii, trees, etc.