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 Post Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 1:16 pm    Post subject: poisons
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When and why were poisons downtweaked so obsenely?

It kinda defeats the purpose of the black vial if somone with absolutly no resistance can survive the most powerful poison made
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 Post Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:32 am    Post subject:
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They haven't been touched in quite some time.
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 Post Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:19 am    Post subject:
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Uhm. Black vial has been tweaked at least.. I've noticed it. It does virtually so weak of damage I no longer have to worry about it. Don't think it's quite fair a brand new person can survive it either... or so I've heard/seen. Poisons were meant to be deadly yes? Then how can the strongest of poisons...be survived by anyone?
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 Post Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 1:57 pm    Post subject:
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don't poisons decay in strength over time?

(or was that one of those "possible things that may be included in the future" things?)
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 Post Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:10 pm    Post subject:
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Poison traps on elite guard boxes can't even bring Tshar's health below 95%.
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 Post Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:36 am    Post subject:
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Poison strength may decay over time, but none-the-less should still HURT someone...rather than simply annoy em. Just seems poisons are getting weaker and weaker when really they're better when they're more dangerous
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 Post Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 12:25 pm    Post subject:
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Galeth Lothain wrote:
Poison strength may decay over time, but none-the-less should still HURT someone...rather than simply annoy em. Just seems poisons are getting weaker and weaker when really they're better when they're more dangerous


i think it's more that health levels were being changed around but poisons weren't.
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 Post Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 10:50 am    Post subject:
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Tell that to the newbie who survived Stilldawn's black vial Very Happy
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 Post Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 12:18 pm    Post subject:
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My guess is the same as Yaru's concerning the hit point change, but I also want to take the opportunity to correct what comes across to me as a misconception that the Black Vial should be a guaranteed death sentence for every victim -- simply, I doubt that was ever Trevor's intent with the introduction of the poison system. When you look at things proportionally, consider that the Black Vial takes significantly less skill to learn than the highest level potions; there's no good game-balance reason players should be toting multi-dose vials of the equivalent of the bubonic plague.
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 Post Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 4:00 pm    Post subject:
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Well considering my black vial went from being able to kill myself when I applied it to doing virtually no damage to myself when I drink it. Yeah I think there is a problem.
Since my original post it has gotten a little bit better but is still very inaffective. Do I think it should be a guarenteed death sentence to anyone? no and I have never said that. Do I think it should kill somone with little to no resistance? Hell yes.

As far as learning levels to make them, I myself suggested the black vial to be learned at a higher level because it WAS so powerful
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 Post Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:35 pm    Post subject:
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I'll check into this. There was no intentional change to poison strengths. Poisons are intended to be useful and very dangerous, but are not intended to trivialize other methods of injuring someone/something, either.
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 Post Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 9:23 am    Post subject:
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Thank you Trevor
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 Post Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 5:52 pm    Post subject:
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FYI, I have been monitoring numbers on poison health drains and will soon compare these to health regen rates and decide what adjustments need to be made. I do want to repeat though, that I don't believe getting a poison in someone's system should be a definite death sentence. That simply cheapens combat, particularly PVP, way too much.
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