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 Post Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 7:20 pm    Post subject: Nowbi Scouts
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Nowbi Scouts:
While hunting there under the new changes, i noticed a:they poison almost every time i'm hit, and b:the poison lasts forever and a day.
Now normally i wouldn't be worried about being hit (risk of combat)
but the poison basically flatlines my stats down to base scores
making hunting them totally unfeasable.
Before someone points out something rediculously stupid,
I'd like to clarify i have:
Pulse Weapons : 84 (96)
Evasion : 84 (92)
Agility : 45 (62)
Perception : 39 (40)
Mentality : 24 (25)

Encumbrance: You are minimally encumbered.
Armor Hindrance: You are unhindered by your armor.
Level 28
In the combat outlook Trevor mentioned the NPC's would have
3.0xlevel-offensive and 2.something defense per level
that would put the scout's offensive at 90ish.
and defensive at less.
After getting poisoned my stats are sacked to the point
where i cannot hit them without sweeping with unarmed,
which isn't always effective.
I am not understanding how something a mere TWO levels above me
is bitchslapping me around with skills that are onpar
with the attacker.
Would also like to know if the poison length is working
properly, it seems to last for a very long time, which means as soon as
i'm poisoned the hunting is over. I could understand poison
lasting for like 4-5 minutes, but over 20 is a rediclous boon for
being hit once. I don't think even Stilldawn's poison would last that long.
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 Post Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 8:43 pm    Post subject:
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Since the nowbi scouts are my product, I'll field this one.

Regarding the poison:
1. With your publicly attested low vitality setting the benchmark, it's not too contrived to assume your poison resistance plain stinks.
2. The scout poison potency is comparable to the poison on a weapon I checked into on your character; poison that I'm presuming you made yourself.

Take this into account as you consider:
1. The poison is doing what poison is supposed to do, not to mention that
2. It's been reiterated several times that the Echak hunting mobs were custom-coded to present a significantly more challenging hunting experience beyond the vanilla >stab-search-repeat. They're harder on purpose.
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 Post Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 9:43 pm    Post subject:
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Since the nowbi scouts are my product, I'll field this one.

Regarding the poison:
1. With your publicly attested low vitality setting the benchmark, it's not too contrived to assume your poison resistance plain stinks.
2. The scout poison potency is comparable to the poison on a weapon I checked into on your character; poison that I'm presuming you made yourself.

Take this into account as you consider:
1. The poison is doing what poison is supposed to do, not to mention that
2. It's been reiterated several times that the Echak hunting mobs were custom-coded to present a significantly more challenging hunting experience beyond the vanilla >stab-search-repeat. They're harder on purpose.



-8 resist (poison flaw,still trying to work it off without the whole *guzzling non-harmful poison all day* shick i see alot of folks do.)
poison on my blade, don't remember.
missed the reiteration, will try back again in a few more levels.
But thank you for clarifying
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 Post Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 10:47 pm    Post subject:
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You shouldn't be able to even fight these things because of the level difference, much less the poison issue.
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 Post Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 10:59 pm    Post subject:
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You shouldn't be able to even fight these things because of the level difference, much less the poison issue.


Someone told me they're 30th, that would make it 2 levels differance.
and i hate to say it Trevor...but i hear that alot :Very Happy:
(You shouldn't be able to even fight these things)
So, 2 levels differance really is enough to make them not within my area of combat?
Well hrm just tested beetles too, is there some kind of hard level cap?
I mean...really if there is then all this bonused shit im wearing is just
overdoing it for slaughtering shit my level and below.
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 Post Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 5:29 am    Post subject:
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They're level 50. BTW I had accidentally left level out as a factor in defense and corrected this. As well, the factor level creates in overall hit and miss was adjusted upward a lot this morning.
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 Post Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 7:46 am    Post subject:
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You wont work off your posion penalty by guzzling non lethal poison all day, IF any, it only raises resistance the tiniest amount, The Vial of Pain poison I believe will give you a max of around 15 percent towards your resistance with The Black Vial giving you around another 15 percent and still drinking or applying these raises the resistance rather slowly. The fastest way to raise your resistance would be to trip poison boxes. I suggest at your level of resistance doing so by tripping them just outside the hospital and only getting healed if you KNOW you will die, otherwise let it run its course. Lower level boxes tend to have a milder poisons so I also suggest paying somone to get you said boxes. Although there is an occasional mean one in there.

Again you can only raise your resistance so much by actually being poisoned the rest you are going to have to do by raising your Vit. Its not a good idea to run around with that low of Vit anyways so I suggest that method first then top it off with actual poisons.
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 Post Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 8:22 am    Post subject:
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I just went out and checked Nowbi Scouts on the Lookout Path and with 110 appraisal I'm getting that they're 30th. Nowbi archers are 50th however.
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 Post Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 9:12 am    Post subject:
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You wont work off your posion penalty by guzzling non lethal poison all day, IF any, it only raises resistance the tiniest amount, The Vial of Pain poison I believe will give you a max of around 15 percent towards your resistance with The Black Vial giving you around another 15 percent and still drinking or applying these raises the resistance rather slowly. The fastest way to raise your resistance would be to trip poison boxes. I suggest at your level of resistance doing so by tripping them just outside the hospital and only getting healed if you KNOW you will die, otherwise let it run its course. Lower level boxes tend to have a milder poisons so I also suggest paying somone to get you said boxes. Although there is an occasional mean one in there.

Again you can only raise your resistance so much by actually being poisoned the rest you are going to have to do by raising your Vit. Its not a good idea to run around with that low of Vit anyways so I suggest that method first then top it off with actual poisons.



I've gotten Kit's poison resistance up pretty good. I just have him trip every poison box he comes to.
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 Post Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 10:21 am    Post subject:
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They're level 50. BTW I had accidentally left level out as a factor in defense and corrected this. As well, the factor level creates in overall hit and miss was adjusted upward a lot this morning.


Sad everyone else says 30

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I just went out and checked Nowbi Scouts on the Lookout Path and with 110 appraisal I'm getting that they're 30th. Nowbi archers are 50th however.


30 or 50?

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Again you can only raise your resistance so much by actually being poisoned the rest you are going to have to do by raising your Vit. Its not a good idea to run around with that low of Vit anyways so I suggest that method first then top it off with actual poisons.


Like a good movie, it's in the works!

EDIT: on the poison resist i've been picking through the poison traps more as of late and it dropped down to -7% last night (not sure how fast this works though. gonna whip up my own batch of goop and see how quickly it gets the job done, or kills me) Laughing
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 Post Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 12:28 pm    Post subject:
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They're level 50. BTW I had accidentally left level out as a factor in defense and corrected this. As well, the factor level creates in overall hit and miss was adjusted upward a lot this morning.



everyone else says 30


That's for level 30 Trackers only. But for you, Level 50.

Joking. heh.[/quote]
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 Post Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 1:32 pm    Post subject: yeap
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You also see a nowbi scout.
You notice exits leading east and southwest.
appraise sc
You try to size up a nowbi scout ...
A nowbi scout appears to be aggressive toward you.
[This is a level 30 creature.]
Roundtime: 8 sec.


there you go.

edit: incidentally, while checking that out, the best 'good timing' effect ever happened to jade. its gonna become my signature.
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 Post Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 11:21 am    Post subject:
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Totally ignore what I said about nowbi scout level, I thought you had said nowbi archer which is a completely different deal.
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Totally ignore what I said about nowbi scout level, I thought you had said nowbi archer which is a completely different deal.


Sok,Trevor. I've taken a more lax stance about hunting as of late anyways.
Gonna prolly wait till im 30th+ before attempting them, or the next time i get bored and wanna die or something Laughing
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Did you say the poison lasted 20 minutes?

I havent tested my stat dropping poison to see how long it lasts but I know more black vial only lasts around five minutes. So if you ACTUALLY timed it at lasting 20 minutes than I would definatly say something is wrong.

Maybe if I get really bored I will time one of my stat dropping poisons
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