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HR-Marduk
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:33 am Post subject: Shotguns |
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After watching someone hunting with a shotgun tonight, I've toned down their damage and accuracy at missile range.
This will only affect combat with other players or with creatures that currently have the engagement system active. _________________ HR-Marduk
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Daedalus Local Pimp
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:29 am Post subject: Re: Shotguns |
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HR-Marduk wrote: |
or with creatures that currently have the engagement system active. |
Are you sure on this? Because I'm still hitting pretty hard while not engaged on creatures that have the engagement system active. _________________
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soundless EIGHT YEARS OLD!!!
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 5970 Location: Spaceship
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:43 am Post subject: Re: Shotguns |
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Daedalus wrote: |
HR-Marduk wrote: |
or with creatures that currently have the engagement system active. |
Are you sure on this? Because I'm still hitting pretty hard while not engaged on creatures that have the engagement system active. |
you might just be a compotent shooter _________________ A bright-eyed Thekko Ku Kalla dressed in a dapper sailor suit takes to flight and careers through the air toward the Modan Kucho and slams into him!
With a high-pitched cry, The Modan Kucho collapses in death. |
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fatboy
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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Shotguns should hit hard. _________________ You hack your way through a very young fisherman's back. It may not have been pretty, but it got the job done.
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soundless EIGHT YEARS OLD!!!
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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fatboy wrote: |
Shotguns should hit hard. |
at close ranges, yes. at missle, no. since a shotgun pretty much fires a bunch of shrapnel in a general direction, doing as much damage at missle as would be done at melee doesn't make sense, because there's no fine aiming when it comes to a shotgun. it's just point and blast.
at least that is why marduk is trying to do, IIRC. _________________ A bright-eyed Thekko Ku Kalla dressed in a dapper sailor suit takes to flight and careers through the air toward the Modan Kucho and slams into him!
With a high-pitched cry, The Modan Kucho collapses in death. |
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fatboy
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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That would depend on the ammo type too. We have slugs in game now. Slugs would be more effective than pellets at missile range, and still cause a good deal of damage. But then we're getting into reality again aren't we? And reality can only be applied to certain things. Like sneaking down/up stairs! _________________ You hack your way through a very young fisherman's back. It may not have been pretty, but it got the job done.
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zamde Maestro
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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Should we take a wild stab at guessing who uses a shotgun? _________________ An eye for an eye; but my eye's worth more.
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fatboy
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, I use a pairr of pistols or a TG23 field rifle. The rifle more often than not. _________________ You hack your way through a very young fisherman's back. It may not have been pretty, but it got the job done.
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zamde Maestro
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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In other words, you're weighing in on a weapon you've got no applicable experience (or stake in) to apply any theory to.
The result is still the same whether it's shot, slugs, or salted peanuts; the ballistic spray of shot is more condensed (and, thus, more likely to rend) at the origin of the cone than it is farther away.
If we were picking nits, we could explore the notion that any hit to the eyes with something sharp with enough force to quantify it as "violent" action would damn well ruin them in a single blow. Or that most neck or head shots would be immediately fatal due to head trauma, exsanguination, or a combination of both. _________________ An eye for an eye; but my eye's worth more.
Dixie Pierce says, "I heard Zamde can't have kids cause she lactates poison."
[Telepathy] Yaru Dex projects: I thought Zamde doesn't have kids because her womb is full of aisobs.
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soundless EIGHT YEARS OLD!!!
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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shotguns are cool to use, but rifles are still the long range kings.
if i was a melee marksmanship user, i'd go for shotguns maybe. but if i was melee, why don't i just use a sword?
(ps: poor flamethrowers, the coolest yet most unloved missle weapon of them all) _________________ A bright-eyed Thekko Ku Kalla dressed in a dapper sailor suit takes to flight and careers through the air toward the Modan Kucho and slams into him!
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zamde Maestro
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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if i was a melee marksmanship user, i'd go for shotguns maybe. but if i was melee, why don't i just use a sword? |
None of the comparably damaging (to shotgun fire) bladed weapon attacks reward you with only a single second of roundtime. _________________ An eye for an eye; but my eye's worth more.
Dixie Pierce says, "I heard Zamde can't have kids cause she lactates poison."
[Telepathy] Yaru Dex projects: I thought Zamde doesn't have kids because her womb is full of aisobs.
You can't spell "slaughter" without 'laughter'.
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fatboy
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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In other words, you're weighing in on a weapon you've got no applicable experience (or stake in) to apply any theory to. |
Not at all. I've used shotguns in the past, but I do not use them now because the gun and ammo weigh me down more than the rifle and it's ammo. Not to mention I've been shooting shotguns most of my life. _________________ You hack your way through a very young fisherman's back. It may not have been pretty, but it got the job done.
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HR-Marduk
Joined: 11 Apr 2004 Posts: 252
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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A bug has been fixed that was causing ranges to be improperly calculated when players were fighting against creatures.
This should significantly reduce the power of shotguns at missile range. _________________ HR-Marduk
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Daedalus Local Pimp
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:17 am Post subject: |
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Slugs should make at least a slight difference, but I'm not even sure if that ammo that's sold in the underground actually works. _________________
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fatboy
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, take a 12 gauge out and fire at a target 50, 30, and 20 yards away using a slug, 00 buck and bird shot. The results may just surprise you. What distance is missile considered in game? I guess we'd be getting too detailed and bogged down in reality again to worry about it really. _________________ You hack your way through a very young fisherman's back. It may not have been pretty, but it got the job done.
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