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Should Performers, at some high point in their career, be able to compose one or more new spellsongs? |
Why not? It's the pinnacle-ness of Performership, after all. |
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"Check out my new spellsong that increases luck, kills everyone with razor-edged pancakes, and gives me 100000xp each time I use it. The Chant of DIE DIE FORNICATE." |
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Damnit, Mickey! Stop giving Performers all the cool stuff while (insert profession here) don't get anything! |
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Simply, yes. |
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Simply, no. |
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HR-Mickey Cloverfield Monster
Joined: 24 Nov 2002 Posts: 1844 Location: I've Got No 'billy
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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:09 pm Post subject: Composing Spellsongs |
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This is solely out of curiousity, not a hint of any intention on my part.
"Composing", in its abstract, would be creating a spellsong from a list of templates and options by investing extensive in-game time and "research" fees, to invent a Performer-only (or perhaps learnable by anyone) spellsong that can be notated and distributed (or not) by the composer.
Research fees would be determined by a number of factors and modifiers dependent on aspects of the spellsong -- ex. short/medium/long duration, type of effect, area of effect. _________________ Mickey Brunner
To make a long story short, don't tell it.
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Dante Boi Toi
Joined: 12 Sep 2002 Posts: 728 Location: Orlando, Florida
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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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The Chant of DIE DIE FORNICATE was a viable option. But I think this is a great idea. I'm almost jealous. _________________ Help! Help! I'm being oppressed! |
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Kit Cybertech Extraordinaire~
Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 3071 Location: Currently cyberwiring your mind
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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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Dante wrote: |
The Chant of DIE DIE FORNICATE was a viable option. But I think this is a great idea. I'm almost jealous. |
666. Jerren from Goats always says 666 with his Die Die Fornicate song. |
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Brokyn LLAMA SECHS
Joined: 19 Oct 2002 Posts: 3648 Location: Northern Georgia
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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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Went with option one. I'd hope that the composition of these spellsongs would be fairly regulated by some Counselor dude (or dudette). Not only to make sure everything's balanced, but to also make sure that there maintains a sense of uniqueness between each one (so that you don't have fifty people composing the DIE DIE FORNICATE song).
It would be interesting if you could teach them to others, though. But that would defeat the purpose, I suppose, unless the bonuses/effects would be lessened for anyone other than the original composer. I doubt many people can consistently perform Beethoven's pieces without notable flaws, without countless years of practice and instruction at least.
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Tylen Alpha Antifemale
Joined: 29 Jul 2003 Posts: 1192 Location: Not Colorado
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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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Oh great, another way for Haidee to spend my money. _________________ ** The phrase "break a leg" just wasn't ambitious enough for Mellie Knight. [8:31 pm]
** Mellie Knight was soundly defeated by Aesal Anari-Idia in the Zgedhi Gkenrzeg Rav! [8:31 pm] |
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HR-Mickey Cloverfield Monster
Joined: 24 Nov 2002 Posts: 1844 Location: I've Got No 'billy
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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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I'd hope that the composition of these spellsongs would be fairly regulated by some Counselor dude (or dudette). Not only to make sure everything's balanced, but to also make sure that there maintains a sense of uniqueness between each one |
I only considered the idea long enough to flesh it out slightly, but it wasn't really much more than a passing "Hey, wouldn't it be cool if..." fancy. Just to give a partial idea of modifiers/factors, I'd throw this out off the top of my head. Note that the math is zany because it's just a fast and loose example.
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Performance Type -- Base Value:
Dancing: 22000 (no instrument needed)
Rhythm: 19000
Singing: 21000 (no instrument needed)
Stringed: 20000
Wind: 17000 (wind spellsongs are probably the least used)
Duration Type -- Mandatory Modifier
Short: Base * 10
Medium: Base * 14
Long: Base * 20
:Effects:
Skill Buffs Category--
Performance Type: +120,000 each
Combat/Defense Type: +140,000 each
Other: +80,000 each
etc.
:Area of Effect:
Self: No modifier
Group: Total * 1.5
All In Room: Total * 1.8
Outside Group (aggressive): Total * 2.2
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Edit: Just looking back, I can already see things that are sort of off. There'd be no difference between instrument-based performance types (those previous values just guaranteed every song would be a wind), the 'Other' skill buff category would need to be broken down by skill-use weight, etc, etc. _________________ Mickey Brunner
To make a long story short, don't tell it.
I may be going nowhere, but I'm going nowhere fast.
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Kelvin Watt says, "I stopped drinking coke when no longer drinking beer didn't make my gut disappear."
---
Kaelin Rae says, "Wait a minute..."
Kaelin Rae says, "You mean they have a COKE machine that dispenses beer."
Kaelin Rae nods to you.
Kaelin Rae says, "Greaser."
Kaelin Rae looks at you and sighs. |
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HR-Mickey Cloverfield Monster
Joined: 24 Nov 2002 Posts: 1844 Location: I've Got No 'billy
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, I can't think of any reason why an average three-skill buff spellsong would (or should) cost less than a number in upwards of $3.5-$5 million to research.
I'm still speaking hypothetically, mind you. I like the idea that the composer would still have it in their power to notate and control the dispersion of the song throughout the performing masses (within reason, obviously; it assumes you can trust the people you gift it to not to go passing it on to anyone they feel like), but they'd probably still be Performer-only. It leaves a lot of cool character/RP room, in my opinion, for Performers of great skill/stature/reputation to have their crowning work coveted by others. _________________ Mickey Brunner
To make a long story short, don't tell it.
I may be going nowhere, but I'm going nowhere fast.
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Kelvin Watt says, "I stopped drinking coke when no longer drinking beer didn't make my gut disappear."
---
Kaelin Rae says, "Wait a minute..."
Kaelin Rae says, "You mean they have a COKE machine that dispenses beer."
Kaelin Rae nods to you.
Kaelin Rae says, "Greaser."
Kaelin Rae looks at you and sighs. |
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Dante Boi Toi
Joined: 12 Sep 2002 Posts: 728 Location: Orlando, Florida
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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Would it be viable for performers to add an option in there for making it performer only or by anyone for a small additional development cost? IT could default to only the person who created it, or even performer only since the person wouldn't HAVE to notate it for anyone. _________________ Help! Help! I'm being oppressed! |
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