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Joined: 19 Dec 2003
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 Post Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 11:02 am    Post subject: Meeting log 8.21.04
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Okay, I auto-log the game and I have never cleaned one up and posted it like this before so I hope nothing is missing. I'm also just going to copy and paste it from notepad so, I hope that turns out okay too.
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>Hunter Ja'Kaal casually glances around the area.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Alright, let's get started."

>Galeth Lothain nods.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "I'm going to tell you guys about sigils, which will be coming out sometime around the exp change, and about a couple things I've been thinking about for live."

>Galeth Lothain grins.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Ok, for sigils, what they are is the alphabet from the language of the native gods. We as mortals can't understand more then one letter at a time, so there won't be any race creation or world building power from guardians."

>Dante Vamaduro snaps his fingers.

>Jade Venra grins.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "But they'll still be pretty potent."

>Galeth Lothain nods.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "You'll need to start by making your own ink, it will be similer to alchemy."

>Mandasity Beoulvue arrives from the northeast.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "And use any of the craft skills to make an object suitable to put a sigil on."

Mandasity Beoulvue coughs.

>Dante Vamaduro winks at Mandasity Beoulvue.

>You wave to Mandasity Beoulvue.

>Jade Venra nods to Mandasity Beoulvue.

>Mandasity Beoulvue waves.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Pardon me..."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "There will be two parts to the sigil, the power and the modifier."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods to Mandasity Beoulvue.

>Jade Venra sighs.

>Galeth Lothain asks, "So craftsmanship will play a part Hunter?"

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "The powers will be things like elemental attacks, protection from good/evil, anti magic and psi, etc."

>Jade Venra nods.

Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Maybe, you could use craftsmanship skill, or maybe tailoring or sculpting."

Hunter Ja'Kaal nods to Galeth Lothain.

>Galeth Lothain nods.

>Mandasity Beoulvue asks, "So the sigils may go on different items?"

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "I'll try to make sure there's at least one item in every craft skill."

>Jade Venra nods.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods to Mandasity Beoulvue.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "There's going to be 3 modifiers."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Self, other, and area."

>Galeth Lothain raises his eyebrow.

Jade Venra nods.

Jade Venra says, "Very sensible."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Non guardians will have access to all the powers, but only the self modifier."

Mandasity Beoulvue winces.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Which is mostly shield type powers."

>Dante Vamaduro purrs happily.

>Jade Venra says, "Good, that covers my question."

>Galeth Lothain nods.

D'zun T'kath raises his hand.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods to D'zun T'kath.

>D'zun T'kath says, "Forgive my interruption."

Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Go ahead."

>D'zun T'kath says, "I was curious whether the item had to be crafted by the person attaching the sigil."

>Galeth Lothain nods politely to Mandasity Beoulvue.

>Dante Vamaduro gazes around his surroundings.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Here in beta, probably not... in live yes, which leads to something else I'll mention later."

>Jade Venra nods.

>Dante Vamaduro closes his eyes and purrs seductively.

>Galeth Lothain asks, "So non-guardians have access to all self applied and crafted sigil's?"

>Galeth Lothain asks, "Basically right?"

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods to Galeth Lothain.

>Galeth Lothain nods.

>D'zun T'kath says, "Excuse me once more."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "And the self ones are mostly just defensive."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods to D'zun T'kath.

>Jade Venra nods.

>D'zun T'kath asks, "Will guardians be more proficient at making these sigils, either in speed or potency?"

>Galeth Lothain grins.

>Jade Venra nods.

Galeth Lothain says, "Took the words from my mouth."

>Jade Venra says, "That makes sense."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Was about to ask the same."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "I would assume so..."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "The self ones? Hmm, probably, but I don't have the mechanics made yet to know how a bonus would fit in."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Considering other professions proficiency in there given fields..."

>Mandasity Beoulvue nods.

>Jade Venra grins at Mandasity Beoulvue.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "My thoughts exactly..."

>Mandasity Beoulvue nods to Jade Venra.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal asks, "Any other question or suggestions about sigils?"

>Galeth Lothain says, "Not to mention we will be the only ones able to do the other modifiers."

>Galeth Lothain says, "I do."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods to Galeth Lothain.

>Jade Venra says, "If an item is made to be used for other or area. ."

>Mandasity Beoulvue asks, "We may make suggestions?"

>Eka Oni leans on Galeth Lothain.

>Galeth Lothain asks, "By using these sigil's it will take essence right?"

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods to Mandasity Beoulvue.

>Galeth Lothain says, "And will take a chink."

>Jade Venra asks, "And it is given to a non-guardian, will it work?"

>Galeth Lothain says, "Chunk rather."

>Galeth Lothain asks, "Similar to cyberware?"

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods to Galeth Lothain.

>Galeth Lothain says, "Mm."

>Nojn Rahn asks, "Hunter, how or when are the sigals learned? by levels like mediations they become available?"

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "And when the sigils gets used up you get your essence back."

>Galeth Lothain nods.

>Galeth Lothain says, "Thought so."

>Mandasity Beoulvue asks, "Same question for me as Nojn or will it take training in research to learn them?"

You ask, "So, it doesn't just continuously drain it?"

Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Sigil lore will be a skill, so it will be more like spells/psionics then anything else."

>Jade Venra says, "You said we non-guardians will only be able to do the self-modifier ourselves, hunter. but say galeth did one for me with a different modifier."

>Jade Venra asks, "Would it work?"

>Mandasity Beoulvue nods to Hunter Ja'Kaal.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal shakes his head at you.

You nod to Hunter Ja'Kaal.

>Nojn Rahn exclaims, "He dare not!"

>grin nojnYou grin at Nojn Rahn.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "I have a question of a different sort sir..."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Yes, a guardian could make one for a non guardian to wear, but it would use the guardians essence."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods to Jade Venra.

>Jade Venra says, "Alright."

>Galeth Lothain turns to Hunter Ja'Kaal and asks, "Also, it will affect our meditations slightly, since it will be taking from our essence correct?"

Jade Venra nods to Hunter Ja'Kaal.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods to Mandasity Beoulvue.

>Galeth Lothain asks, "Say perhaps weakening our meditations?"

>Hunter Ja'Kaal turns to Galeth Lothain and says, "In live yes, in beta maybe."

>Galeth Lothain nods to Hunter Ja'Kaal.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Well there is spells currently like armor aura and psi shield and the like that are defensive against those things."

>Mandasity Beoulvue asks, "Will there be new spells/powers to counter the sigils?"

>Galeth Lothain grins.

>Jade Venra nods to Yvone Higomatto.

>Yvone Higomatto nods to Jade Venra.

>Jade Venra asks, "Sigil wards?"

Dealer Eka Oni goes northeast
.
>Mandasity Beoulvue smiles at Yvone Higomatto.

>Jade Venra says, "Hm .."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "I'm thinking there will be a counter power, but that's really up to Trevor since he's mage and psionic guru."

>Galeth Lothain says, "I have another question after everyone is done with theirs."

You ask, "Will they be stackable? I mean can you use more than one with enough essence?"
You say, "Oh oops, sorry."

>Mandasity Beoulvue nods to Hunter Ja'Kaal.

>Nojn Rahn grabs you by the shoulders and shakes you!

>Jade Venra says, "No."

>Jade Venra says, "They are one at a time."

You sniffle at Nojn Rahn
.
>You hear the voice of Marduk Etemmu ask, "If it's elemental, wouldn't it just work off elemental resist?"

>You hear someone cough.

Nojn Rahn glances around the area.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "You can use more then one, but they wouldn't stack so much as when one wears off the next takes over."

You nod.

You say, "Ah okay."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Mmk, i have a question.."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Interesting..."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Explain these modifiers..."

>Galeth Lothain asks, "You said self, area, and what else?"

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Other."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Elemental ones, sure, they're not all elemental though."

You say, "Group."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Self, other, and area."

>You say, "Oh."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Explain other and area."

Jade Venra says, "Area is group."

You laugh!

>Galeth Lothain says, "If you would please."

>Jade Venra says, "Other is simply another person."

>Jade Venra says, "Like defend."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Other is me Armor Auring you Galeth."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods to Jade Venra.

>Galeth Lothain says, "Alright."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Group is fortify legion on you folks."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Then area would be like.."

>Galeth Lothain asks, "A bonus or so to the room?"

>Mandasity Beoulvue asks, "Am i correct?"

>Jade Venra says, "All, you and all others."

>Galeth Lothain asks, "And it would stay there til worn off?"

>Jade Venra nods to Galeth Lothain.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Area is room effect, other is single person targeted."

>Galeth Lothain nods.

>Galeth Lothain says, "Alright."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Wanted to double check."

>Dhaak Gujn stares blankly into the distance.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "I have another question."

>Jade Venra looks over to Yvone Higomatto and shrugs.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Maybe you answered it if you did im sorry."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods to Mandasity Beoulvue.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Crafting (for that perticular craft) will it affect the power/potency of the sigil itself? or just the duration or such."

>Jade Venra grins at Mandasity Beoulvue.

>Jade Venra says, "Good."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "If you answered that already again i apologize."

>Dealer Eka Oni arrives from the northeast.

Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Neither really, you just need enough skill to make the item, artistic quality won't effect potency."

>Jade Venra nods.

>Galeth Lothain says, "I have oine."

>Galeth Lothain says, "One rather."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "So making the item doesnt affect the sigil itself really..."

>Mandasity Beoulvue nods.

>Galeth Lothain asks, "The look of the sigil's we can change them with the craft we use?"

>Galeth Lothain asks, "Or they all look the same?"

>Yvone Higomatto nods to Mandasity Beoulvue.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "In live it will need to be made by you, and which items you make will determine where they can be worn, but quality of the crafted worn item won't effect it."

>Jade Venra nods.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "I have another one."

>Mandasity Beoulvue blushes profusely.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Sorry."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "I'm thinking the look will depend on the specific sigil more then the crafe used."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods to Galeth Lothain.

>Galeth Lothain nods to Hunter Ja'Kaal.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Craft."

Jade Venra says, "Nice."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Magic for example needs intelligence for mages and charisma for guardians as powers need mentality for psionics and charisma for guardians."

>Mandasity Beoulvue asks, "Obviously for us it shall be mainly charisma.... but what about other professions?"

>Galeth Lothain grins at Tha Til.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Will be mainly charisma and sigil lore skill for everyone."

>Tha Til raises her hand.

>Mandasity Beoulvue nods.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods to Tha Til.

Tha Til asks, "Will the sigil research skill be grandfathered in by level when the skill goes live?"

>Mandasity Beoulvue turns to Galeth Lothain and says, "1000 credits says all beurocrats are going to do sigils."

>Eka Oni hums innocently.

>Mandasity Beoulvue chuckles.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "No, but everyone is getting their skills blanked when that happens, kinda like reallocation."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Hunter...also one question.."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods to Galeth Lothain.

>Galeth Lothain asks, "About complevel...i heard a rumor that we MIGHT be gettin a redo for traits and flaws also...is this true?"

>Galeth Lothain asks, "Or a mear rumor?"

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "It hasn't been decided for sure, so you know as much as we do."

>Jade Venra nods.

>Mandasity Beoulvue chuckles at Galeth Lothain.

You ask, "And we can't make ink for each other, right?"

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Right."

You ask, "We have to make our own ink and our own item as well?"

You nod.

>Galeth Lothain says, "Oh i got another.."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "I got one too."

>Mandasity Beoulvue smiles.

>Galeth Lothain asks, "Will each guardian need to do the same process to make the ink?"

>Galeth Lothain asks, "Or is it different?"

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "The item you won't have to do here probably, but definately have to make your own in live."

You nod to Hunter Ja'Kaal.

>Eka Oni seems less alluring.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Yes, the formula will be the same for everyone."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Ok i got one."

>Galeth Lothain nods.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "At the moment every person has elemental resistances along with physical psionic poison etc...."

>Mandasity Beoulvue asks, "Will "sigils" or "wards" be a new resistance?"

>Mandasity Beoulvue asks, "Against offensive sigils?"

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Honestly I'm not sure, I hadn't looked into that."

>Jade Venra nods.

>Mandasity Beoulvue nods.

>Yvone Higomatto asks, "May I speak even if im not a guardian?"

>Jade Venra nods to Yvone Higomatto.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods to Yvone Higomatto.

>Nojn Rahn exclaims, "No!"

>Nojn Rahn chuckles.

>Mandasity Beoulvue chuckles at Nojn Rahn.

>Jade Venra says, "It sure the hell doesnt stop me."

>Mandasity Beoulvue just nudged Nojn Rahn.

>Jade Venra grins at Yvone Higomatto.

>Dante Vamaduro chuckles at Jade Venra.

>Yvone Higomatto asks, "If these "sigils" hit you directly wouldnt it make the Fear elements flaw extremly detramental?"

You grin at Jade Venra.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "If it's an elemental sigil then yes, but same as elemental spells."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Ah yes IF there will be a sigil type resistance then there must be new spells/powers/flaws/traits to go with the sigils."

>Mandasity Beoulvue leans on Galeth Lothain.

>Mandasity Beoulvue turns to Galeth Lothain and asks, "Gotta get training eh?"

>Mandasity Beoulvue grins.

>Yvone Higomatto says, "No Mandasity.. its just the sudden increase in elemental spells. It will totaly make the value of some traits and flaws change."

>Mandasity Beoulvue nods.

>Galeth Lothain turns to Hunter Ja'Kaal and asks, "So basically...we will be in mystery for a bit, til we expirament with them when theyh come out?"

>Mandasity Beoulvue grins at Galeth Lothain.

Galeth Lothain cackles with glee!

>Galeth Lothain exclaims, "Shgould be fun!"

>Galeth Lothain beams!

>Dante Vamaduro smirks.

You nod to Galeth Lothain.

>Dhaak Gujn stares blankly into the distance.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "I'll explain some of it when it's released and leave some to experimentation."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Im sure we can find a place or two to learn a thing or two."

>Mandasity Beoulvue winks at Galeth Lothain.

>Jade Venra says, "Absolutely."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "I'll definately give the syntax to use them at minimum."

>Nojn Rahn says, "I can practice on galeth."

>Mandasity Beoulvue chuckles at Galeth Lothain.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "We all can."

>Jade Venra laughs!

>Galeth Lothain nods politely to Nojn Rahn.

>Mandasity Beoulvue leans on Galeth Lothain.

>Galeth Lothain says, "Sure why not."

>Galeth Lothain strikes a heroic pose.

>Mandasity Beoulvue grins.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Hmm i have another."


>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Dont kill me...."

>Mandasity Beoulvue chuckles.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods to Mandasity Beoulvue.

You laugh!

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Its a bit OOC though."

You say, "Ask them all."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Spells and powers take rt and ct."

>Nojn Rahn nods.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Im assuming sigils will aswell...."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal asks, "Ct?"

>Mandasity Beoulvue asks, "Well we gain a reduction to that like mages and psionics do?"

>Nojn Rahn says, "Cast time."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Ahh."

Dante Vamaduro nods.

>Galeth Lothain says, "I have one after mandy."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Actually sigils will be a bit different there."

Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Ok so everyone knows what mode i play in."

>Mandasity Beoulvue chuckles.

>Jade Venra asks, "Or are these the sort of thing that work passively?"

>Jade Venra asks, "Such as runes?"

>Mandasity Beoulvue turns to Hunter Ja'Kaal and says, "Really."

>Mandasity Beoulvue asks, "How so?"

You say, "I thought you just made it and tht took time."

You ask, "And then you just wore it?"

Dante Vamaduro asks, "Or throw it...?"

You nod to Dante Vamaduro.

>Mandasity Beoulvue asks, "Ahhh so its passive?"

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "I got this all wrong."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Sigils are made ahead of time, and that part will take longer, using attack powers will have a short attack like RT but no "cast time".

>Galeth Lothain says, "Chev just asked mah question."

>Galeth Lothain smiles at you.

>Jade Venra nods to you.

>Jade Venra smiles at Mandasity Beoulvue.

>Mandasity Beoulvue nods.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "So its like both basically."

>Galeth Lothain says, "So when we use the sigil's for an offensive manaeuver.."

>Mandasity Beoulvue turns to Jade Venra and says, "I like this passive concept."

>Dante Vamaduro seems to agree!

>Galeth Lothain asks, "It will take time to use them...but it wont have a set time...and a longer time needed to use?"

>Eka Oni seems a bit less charismatic.

>Galeth Lothain asks, "Like with spells?"

>Dante Vamaduro says, "I cannot wait until people are making Sporks of Elemental Sigil Death on the pottery wheels..."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Longer time needed to actually make it then casting time, but when you actually use an attack one then it would just be your RT for trying to hit them with it."

You chuckle at Dante Vamaduro.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "For offensive sigils will we have a reduced time compared to other professions? (the ones that DO take up rt)."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "We already have unarmed RT bonus, landing the sigil will probably use that skill."

>Jade Venra nods to Hunter Ja'Kaal.

>Mandasity Beoulvue nods to Hunter Ja'Kaal.

>Galeth Lothain grins.

>Galeth Lothain says, "Nice..."

>Galeth Lothain exclaims, "Well im happy with the way this is going!"

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Verra nice."

>Mandasity Beoulvue grins at Galeth Lothain.

>Jade Venra says, "Same."

>Jade Venra nods to Galeth Lothain.

You say, "Me too."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Me too."

>Dante Vamaduro says, "Me three."

Dhaak Gujn stares blankly into the distance.

D'zun T'kath raises his hand.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal asks, "Anything else about sigils or should I go on to my plans for live?"

>Mandasity Beoulvue asks, "I also heard we can make suggestions?"

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods to D'zun T'kath.

>Galeth Lothain says, "Go on."

>Jade Venra says, "Now if only i can get my 'trooper heavy armour crafting' proposal met."

>Jade Venra chuckles.

>Jade Venra nods to Mandasity Beoulvue.

>D'zun T'kath says, "In the new system people will be able to train skills and I have heard about bonuses for training skills being given to certain professions. First is this true, secondly will sigils be a bonus training thing for guardians."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Hmmm i dont have any at the moment."

>Mandasity Beoulvue chuckles at Jade Venra.

>Jade Venra grins.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Yes and yes."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Assuming all goes according to plan."

Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Its crazy enough to work Hunter."

>Mandasity Beoulvue smiles.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "You got my vote."

>Jade Venra says, "Its well-thought-out."

Dante Vamaduro nods.

>Mandasity Beoulvue asks, "Though may i make a suggestion?"

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "It may seem selfish...."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods to Mandasity Beoulvue.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Mages and psionics have two fields they can call there own and two they share."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Sigils will have one planned for us and 2 for others."

>Mandasity Beoulvue grins.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "No, other way around."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Other way dude."

>Galeth Lothain pokes Mandasity Beoulvue in the ribs.

>Galeth Lothain says, "They get self defensive."

Dante Vamaduro pats Mandasity Beoulvue on the back with a hearty thump.

>Galeth Lothain says, "We get area and other."

>Mandasity Beoulvue asks, "Oh 2 for us and one for others?"

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Self is everyone, other and area are guardian only."

Dante Vamaduro lubs his defensive schtuff.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Ok so now for the UNselfish suggestion."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods to Mandasity Beoulvue.

You grin at Dante Vamaduro.

Mandasity Beoulvue asks, "What about a fourth field that everyone can learn?"

>Jade Venra asks, "Such as?"

>Galeth Lothain asks, "What else would their be?"

>Galeth Lothain peers quizzically at Mandasity Beoulvue.

>Mandasity Beoulvue asks, "Well theres area and self and other right?"

>Galeth Lothain nods politely to Mandasity Beoulvue.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods to Mandasity Beoulvue.

Mandasity Beoulvue asks, "What about a room one that stays in affect EVEN when everyones gone?"

>Jade Venra asks, "Will 'other' sigils only work while the other persons in the room?"

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "That's area."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Thats area."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "So an evil person per se walks by and ZAP."

>Jade Venra nods.

>Dante Vamaduro says, "If area effects everything in the room...maybe simply "group" or "not in the group"."

>Galeth Lothain turns to Hunter Ja'Kaal and says, "I have one after his."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods to Galeth Lothain.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Hmm this is very tricky but i can think of a ideas for a fourth style."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Mmk its like this..how about.."

Galeth Lothain says, "Like say...there are sigil's that are offense and defense.."

>Galeth Lothain asks, "Could there be sigil's throwable?"

>Galeth Lothain says, "At creatures that.."

Galeth Lothain asks, "Mabye lowers their resistance?"

>Mandasity Beoulvue turns to Galeth Lothain and says, "Im not learning throwing."

>Mandasity Beoulvue chuckles.

>Galeth Lothain says, "Or is similar to the clay pot like the nowbi."

>Jade Venra nods to Mandasity Beoulvue.

>Dante Vamaduro comforts Jade Venra.

>Galeth Lothain says, "Where it does after affective damage."

>Nojn Rahn says, "Galeth throws and runs."

>Galeth Lothain grins at Nojn Rahn.

>Galeth Lothain turns to Nojn Rahn and says, "If it is bigger you damn right."

Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "I've been thinking about that, I haven't decided for sure... might depend if we get an engagement system for beta and how it works."

>Jade Venra laughs at Galeth Lothain!

>Jade Venra says, "The shaman are terrible."

>Mandasity Beoulvue chuckles at Galeth Lothain.

>Galeth Lothain says, "Mmk."

>Mandasity Beoulvue leans on Jade Venra.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Sir robin."

>Mandasity Beoulvue winks at Jade Venra.

>Galeth Lothain says, "Just seems like a good idea."

>The last embers of the fire fade and it dies out.

>Jade Venra exclaims, "Sir robin?!"

>Jade Venra laughs at Mandasity Beoulvue!

Galeth Lothain says, "To throw it at a creature."

>Galeth Lothain says, "And have it lower its physical resistance."

>Mandasity Beoulvue points at Galeth Lothain.

>Galeth Lothain says, "Or somethin similar."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Or hit with heat damage."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "I think we will have that Galeth but it wont be thrown."

>Galeth Lothain says, "And have it keep burning by sticking to them."

>Dante Vamaduro asks, "Like a debuff type sigil?"

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Itll be more like if my fist lands on you."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "As i understand it..."

>Jade Venra says, "Hmm .. like a magical seal you stick on a person."

>Galeth Lothain turns to Mandasity Beoulvue and says, "Was sugggeessstttiiooonn."

>D'zun T'kath asks, "Forgive me brother Galeth, but I fear I have one issue with your suggestion. What skill would you base your ability to hit such a creature with a sigil on?"

Galeth Lothain says, "Yes."

>Galeth Lothain nods to Jade Venra.


>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Ohhhhh."
>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Anti-psi and anti-magic other would be a debuffer."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "I thought it was a question."

>Mandasity Beoulvue chuckles.

>Galeth Lothain says, "Well."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Like mandy said."

>Jade Venra nods to Hunter Ja'Kaal.

>Galeth Lothain says, "We could attach it to our fist perhaps."

>Galeth Lothain says, "And when we connect."

>Jade Venra laughs!

>D'zun T'kath asks, "We are not able to use throw weapons, would that not be considered one?"

>Galeth Lothain says, "It will have a spell affect it."

>Mandasity Beoulvue asks, "What if i use kicks!?!?"

>Mandasity Beoulvue flails his arms about.

Galeth Lothain sighs.

>Jade Venra says, "Cute."

>Galeth Lothain says, "IT WAS JUST AN IDEA."

>Dante Vamaduro pats Galeth Lothain on the back with a hearty thump.

>Nojn Rahn chuckles.

>Galeth Lothain says, "It can be tweaked."

>Mandasity Beoulvue chuckles at Galeth Lothain.

You rub Galeth Lothain gently.

Mandasity Beoulvue says, "And a good one i might add."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Ish."

>Galeth Lothain chuckles.

You comfort Galeth Lothain.

>Galeth Lothain grins.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal asks, "Ok, anything else on sigils?"

You say, "Not from me."

>Dante Vamaduro licks his lips.

>D'zun T'kath says, "I am not trying to be negative, I just wish to fully understand your idea and add my own thoughts."

Hunter Ja'Kaal nods to D'zun T'kath.

>Dante Vamaduro chuckles at Jade Venra.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Yes that is a good idea as for group i cast "fire enhancement" im my party and there attacks do fire damage."

>Jade Venra grins at Dante Vamaduro.

>Mandasity Beoulvue shrugs.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Seems nice."

>Jade Venra says, "I keep trying to protect the name of knarf. hardly anyone here even knew him."

>Dante Vamaduro agrees with Jade Venra.

>Tha Til asks, "So then you'd have sigil me, sigil you, sigil us, sigil here?"

>Dante Vamaduro says, "Only the ancient ones like myself and Mellie and that crowd."

>Jade Venra says, "And me."

>Dante Vamaduro nods to Jade Venra.

>Mandasity Beoulvue smiles at Yvone Higomatto.

>Yvone Higomatto smiles at Mandasity Beoulvue.

>Galeth Lothain grins at D'zun T'kath.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Hmm i have an idea."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods to Mandasity Beoulvue.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "There is other."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "And area."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "But instead of self why not divide it into self (passive) and self (active)."

>Jade Venra asks, "Other works for one other only?"

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Or something along those lines."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods to Jade Venra.

>Jade Venra asks, "There is no select other group?"

>Jade Venra nods.

>Dante Vamaduro exclaims, "Group!"

>Dante Vamaduro flails his arms about.

>Galeth Lothain shrugs.

>Jade Venra tries to figure out what might be wrong with Dante Vamaduro.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Like lets say i ward my pants so it enhances climbing for a duration."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "That could be passive."

>Jade Venra grins.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Or "stop bleeding" on Jades shirt so it works right then and there."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "I'll think about the group thing."

>Jade Venra nods to Hunter Ja'Kaal.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Actually there's a med that does stop bleeding."

>Jade Venra says, "I have so much bio-regen its not funny. i wouldnt need a stop bleeding."

>Jade Venra nods to Hunter Ja'Kaal.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Ah well not all of us are guardians."

>Mandasity Beoulvue grins at Hunter Ja'Kaal.

>Galeth Lothain says, "Yeap."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Of time."

>Galeth Lothain grins.

>Galeth Lothain winks.

>Yvone Higomatto nods to Mandasity Beoulvue.

>Galeth Lothain says, "For all those guardians curious."

>Mandasity Beoulvue winks at Yvone Higomatto.

>Mandasity Beoulvue chuckles.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "But basically yes, doing "self" and "other" will have different effects, you can do a self one and let another use it though."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Interesting."

>Mandasity Beoulvue nods.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Ok one final question and im done."

>Galeth Lothain chuckles.

>Mandasity Beoulvue asks, "Whos the best profession around?"

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods.

>Mandasity Beoulvue cheers!

>Galeth Lothain raises his hand.

>Galeth Lothain raises his hand.

Galeth Lothain raises his hand.

>Dante Vamaduro chortles.

>Galeth Lothain hums innocently.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal chuckles.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Hopefully there isn't a best."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Wanted to end my blabbering on a good note."

>Mandasity Beoulvue leans on Hunter Ja'Kaal.

>Dante Vamaduro agrees with Hunter Ja'Kaal.

>Mandasity Beoulvue turns to Hunter Ja'Kaal and says, "We know better."

>Mandasity Beoulvue grins.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Ok so we can do magic do psionics and now do sigils."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "We can fight and hide."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods.

>Galeth Lothain turns to Mandasity Beoulvue and says, "We are the most spread out on skills."

>Galeth Lothain nods politely to Mandasity Beoulvue.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "We can do it all."

Mandasity Beoulvue grins.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Guardians are intended to be well rounded and fairly self sufficient."

You nod.

You say, "I think we are."

>Galeth Lothain nods to Hunter Ja'Kaal.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Oh i have a suggestion."

>Galeth Lothain says, "We are very powerful."

>Galeth Lothain says, "In other means than just fighting."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Not sigil related though..."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Save it till the end then."

>Mandasity Beoulvue nods.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Got it."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal asks, "Anything else sigilistic?"

>Yvone Higomatto laughs at Mandasity Beoulvue!

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Ok, moving on then."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "I usually tend to be the secretive type who doesn't announce things until they're about to be released, but I've heard as few rumblings lately though, so I'll make an exception tonight."

Nojn Rahn glances around the area.

Mandasity Beoulvue smiles at Hunter Ja'Kaal.

>You stare at Nojn Rahn.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "I like the sound of this..."

>Dante Vamaduro leans forward.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "For live another thing you guys will have is astral abilities."

Galeth Lothain's jaw hits the floor.

>Dante Vamaduro raises his eyebrow.

You say, "Oooooh."

>Galeth Lothain turns to Hunter Ja'Kaal and says, "I love you."

>Galeth Lothain chuckles.

>Astral Nojn Rahn goes northeast.
>Astral Nojn Rahn arrives from the east.

You laugh!

>Galeth Lothain cheers for Nojn Rahn!

You grin at Nojn Rahn.

>Dante Vamaduro chortles.

>Nojn Rahn chuckles.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "I'm picturing 4 parts to it, some of which would likely be shared by psionics since it fits them too."
>'I was wondering what that title meantMandasity Beoulvue asks, "What are astral abilities?"

>You say, "I was wondering what that title meant."

>Dante Vamaduro feels better now.

You grin at Dante Vamaduro.

>Dante Vamaduro grins.

Nojn Rahn shows his astral to Chevonne.

You grin at Nojn Rahn.

>Mandasity Beoulvue chuckles.

>Galeth Lothain gazes at Mandasity Beoulvue.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "One part will be the ability to enter a shared astral space, boiled down it'll basically be a guardian only area that can be reached from many areas, kinda like the OOC area, and this will allow guardians to communicate over long distances which will be more useful in live when alot of places won't be in comm range."

You nod.

>Galeth Lothain asks, "Ooh so communication related?"

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "I'm hoping it will be used that way, but it's up to you guys."

>Mandasity Beoulvue turns to Galeth Lothain and says, "I get to annoy you from even a further distance....interesting."

>Galeth Lothain places his hand over Mandasity Beoulvue's mouth.

>Mandasity Beoulvue nods.

>Galeth Lothain says, "Sounds like communicated by manipulating the stares."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Stars rather."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "When you're in astral form, your body is left behind and vulnerable, just so you know..."

You nod.

>Galeth Lothain says, "Ahh."

You say, "That makes sense."

>Galeth Lothain turns to Hunter Ja'Kaal and asks, "So this will tie in the with meditation of mind?"

>Galeth Lothain asks, "Mabye?"

>Yvone Higomatto says, "Seems magic casters and guardians are getting alot brought to them."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Nope."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Alright then."

You say, "Troopers have alot coming to them too, I'm sure."

>Jade Venra says, "Wed bloody better."

>Jade Venra says, "We lack compared to other fighter profs."

You blink.

>Galeth Lothain says, "No you dont."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal turns to Yvone Higomatto and says, "There's stuff in the works for your profession too, Morrigan's just been on the downlow about it."

You ask, "I beg your pardon?"

>Hunter Ja'Kaal winks at Yvone Higomatto.

>Galeth Lothain turns to Jade Venra and asks, "Ok...dare i keep saying the less to use cyberare?"

>Jade Venra says, "Yes, we do."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Cyberware rather."

>Galeth Lothain grins.

>Galeth Lothain says, "No you are equal to me."

>Jade Venra says, "We arent supposed to use cyberware."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Defensive bonus."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Yes you are."

You ask, "Why ever not?"

>Galeth Lothain says, "Hence the less to take to USE it."

>Jade Venra says, "We rely on physical capacity, they said."

You say, "WE do."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Cyberare is an extension of your body."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Ware rather."

>Jade Venra says, "In our description it says we use our bodies."

>Yvone Higomatto says, "We are supposed to use cyberware.. Tropers that is."

>Dante Vamaduro says, "A replacement on your body."

>You hear the voice of Marduk Etemmu say, "My profession is better than your profession."

>Jade Venra asks, "Then why dont you use it?"

>D'zun T'kath says, "Let us not squabble about matters of who has what less we sound like a bunch of children, we are here to gain knowledge not to compare what profession has more abilities."

>Marduk Etemmu rolls his eyes.

>Jade Venra nods to D'zun T'kath.

>Jade Venra says, "My poiny."

>Galeth Lothain cheers for D'zun T'kath!

>Jade Venra says, "Point."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Ok, I'm also thinking that you'd be able to "walk" around in astral form, it'd be similer to invisibility except you'd be unable to effect anything or be effected."

>Jade Venra says, "Exactly, d'zun."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Wow."

>Galeth Lothain says, "I like that idea."

>Galeth Lothain nods to Hunter Ja'Kaal.

>Tha Til smiles at Hunter Ja'Kaal.

>Jade Venra grins at Galeth Lothain.

>Yvone Higomatto asks, "Would thier be astral wards and areas with astral wards?"

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Also to be able to enter the guardian area and exit from another point dragging your body across."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Possibly, this is stuff for live, so nothing is set in stone yet."

>Yvone Higomatto asks, "Would there be a way to stop people from lets say.. go into your inn room in astral or into your hose when they come?"

>You hear someone laughing!

>Galeth Lothain whispers, "Should they get powers?"

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "I'm sure we'll make some way for it to not be abused, this isn't for the exp change though, so the ideas are still at a much rougher stage."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Which is why I usually don't mention stuff at this stage."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal grins.

>Galeth Lothain turns to Hunter Ja'Kaal and says, "I shall repeat."

>Galeth Lothain turns to Hunter Ja'Kaal and says, "I love you."

>Galeth Lothain chuckles.

>Mandasity Beoulvue chortles.

You grin.

>Dante Vamaduro asks, "Is EVERY profession going to have a teleport clone now?"

>'it's not teleportingYou say, "It's not teleporting."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Yes except tailors."

>Galeth Lothain turns to Dante Vamaduro and says, "It isnt teleportation."

You say, "We won't be able to DO anything."

Galeth Lothain says, "Its moving without being noticed."

>Galeth Lothain says, "We cant do anything."

>Mandasity Beoulvue babbles something about tailors.

>Galeth Lothain says, "And our body is vulnerable."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "No, actually it is kinda telaportation."

>Galeth Lothain raises his eyebrow at Hunter Ja'Kaal.

>Mandasity Beoulvue grins at Galeth Lothain.

You ask, "I thought only to this astral place?"
>Dante Vamaduro says, "Pulling your body across. That would be "Teleporting"."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods to Dante Vamaduro.

>Mandasity Beoulvue asks, "Oh?"

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "It would only be able to be done from cetrain locations though."

You say, "Ah okay, yeah, I missed you saying that."

>Dante Vamaduro says, "I didn't catch anything after that cause of that weird command bug boot though..."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Can't just poof at will."

>Yvone Higomatto says, "Yea but I dont want someone in asral spying on me.. you know in case I got a boi."

>Dante Vamaduro grins at Yvone Higomatto.

>Mandasity Beoulvue chortles.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Like I said, we'll make sure it's not abused, we just haven't decided how yet."

>Yvone Higomatto laughs!

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods to Yvone Higomatto.

>Galeth Lothain nods.

>Yvone Higomatto says, "Just make it so people feel the air is unsettling."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Still sounds you have more planned for astral though."

Mandasity Beoulvue grins at Galeth Lothain.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "He did mention about 10 times theres a lot in planning."

Galeth Lothain says, "Wedll yea."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "I have some ideas on details, but those are still really rough."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal shrugs.

>Galeth Lothain says, "But im thrilled by it all."

>Yvone Higomatto says, "Oh I know.. just stiring the pot."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Ok, the other thing is something I'd like to hear opinions on, I'm not sure if I'm going to do it yet."

Galeth Lothain asks, "About astral or sigil or guardian rrelated?"

Mandasity Beoulvue turns to Hunter Ja'Kaal and says, "At this rate i doubt it will sound bad."

Galeth Lothain says, "Errr."

Galeth Lothain asks, "Guardian skills related?"

Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Part of the guardian mentality is just using that which the gods have provided us, which is why we use unarmed instead of buying weapons and why we're geared to be well rounded."

>Mandasity Beoulvue nods.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "I was concidering allowing the use of weapons/armor, but ONLY those which you make yourself."

>*** Disconnected ***

>Hunter Ja'Kaal asks, "Opinions?"

You frown.

>Mandasity Beoulvue asks, "What type of weapons?"

You say, "I heard the thing about using unarmed."

You say, "What did you say after that, i'm sorry."

>Nojn Rahn says, "No weapons."

>Galeth Lothain says, "I got an idea."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "I think it wouldnt be bad IF its unarmed related."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "I said: I was concidering allowing the use of weapons/armor, but ONLY those which you make yourself."

You say, "Oh."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Metal tipped boots..... spiked gloves..."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Like attachments to our body."

>You hear the voice of Dante Vamaduro say, "I'm not a guardian, but if you do that I think only melee weapons would be better."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Yea."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Something blunt."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Or piercing."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "No, it'd require that skill to use, and it'd require that skill to be able to make one too."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Hmm."

>Galeth Lothain says, "I have a little idea."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "We plan on all weapon skills able to be made in live."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Mabye stave-like weapons."

>Mandasity Beoulvue asks, "What do you mean all weapon skills?"

>Galeth Lothain says, "It comes from the world we live."

>Mandasity Beoulvue asks, "The seperation of bladed into light and heavy?"

>Galeth Lothain says, "Gods provided it."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Hunter sir i had a suggestion before that is related to the current topic."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Well unless its iron or steel."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "So for you anime fans, you might use a pistol like Sanzo, but only if you learn gunsmithing and make your own guns and ammo, which wouldn't be of the best quality until you have pretty high skills."

>Galeth Lothain grins.

>Jade Venra says, "Short blade vs long blade."

You say, "I don't really want to use weapons."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "What if instead we learn guardian only unarmed attacks."

>Dhaak Gujn pats Tha Til on the back with a hearty thump.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "For example some "shaolin kick"."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "It wouldn't be a required thing and we'd still would be the best at unarmed."

>Yvone Higomatto says, "Headlocks.. piledrivers.. alpine holds and kidney shots."

>Galeth Lothain laughs!

>Mandasity Beoulvue glances at Yvone Higomatto and winces.

>Nojn Rahn says, "Unarmed attacks for guardian only is better than weapons."

>Galeth Lothain exclaims, "I have an idea!"

>Galeth Lothain says, "Hunter.."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "As do i."

>Mandasity Beoulvue grins.

>Galeth Lothain says, "Kinda oov but..
"
>Galeth Lothain says, "Ooc i mean."

>Galeth Lothain says, "But.."

>Galeth Lothain asks, "Are we not similar to monks/paladins?"

>Galeth Lothain says, "We are kinda holy."

>Galeth Lothain says, "And unarmed masters."

You say, "Well it does kind of suck not being able to get any bonuses because of no weapons."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods to Galeth Lothain.

Monk Nojn Rahn arrives from the east.

>Galeth Lothain says, "Ok.."

>Galeth Lothain says, "So why dont we get special holy moves? some more unarmed moves? like say perhaps.."

>Galeth Lothain asks, "Only available in a certain stance?"

>Hunter Ja'Kaal asks, "You know about meditate light?"

>Galeth Lothain says, "Yes."

>D'zun T'kath says, "If I may enter my opinion, I prefer not being able to use weapons, our believe our order is based on non-violence and that we should only resort to fighting as either a last resort, to defend another person, or to in the case of some zealots to rid the world of a perceived evil."

>Yvone Higomatto says, "Guardians need some moves they can do at an extreme penalty to hit that are like kick butt.. like a sleeperhold so they can knock out a bad guy rather than heabbutt them and have to scrape up brains."

>Galeth Lothain says, "It is useful."

You say, "Yeah, i love that one."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "It's not just a light source."

>Galeth Lothain says, "I know hunter."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Does dead damage to the undead."

>Galeth Lothain says, "And increases attack effectiveness."

>Galeth Lothain says, "But what i mean is.."

>Nojn Rahn says, "Life better."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Does extra to all, just even more extra to undead."

>Galeth Lothain says, "I know thi."

>Galeth Lothain says, "This rather."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "I got an idea.... what about a ranged unarmed move (stay with me) like ryu in street fighter.... you stab the air with such speed the force continues moving."

>Galeth Lothain asks, "But i was just mentioning since we are a holy-like order...we could mabye get some type of thing to signify it?"

You ask, "ARE we a holy type order?"

>Tha Til ponders.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods to you.

>Galeth Lothain says, "I do believe so."

>Nojn Rahn stares at Chevonne's holyness.

>Galeth Lothain laughs at Nojn Rahn!

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Well pacifism and self reliance is holy."

You grin at Nojn Rahn.

You laugh!

>Mandasity Beoulvue asks, "Isnt it!?"

You ask, "It is?"

>Galeth Lothain nods politely to Mandasity Beoulvue.

You laugh!

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Ya it is."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "We kick butt by ourselves i dont need a gridgun to show me that."

>Mandasity Beoulvue grins.

You say, "We're pacifists? i just thought we were kind of...neutral."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Or...how about this hunter.."

>D'zun T'kath says, "We actually are a profession steeped in religious background."

>'yes, I understand thatYou say, "Yes, I understand that."

You say, "But I guess i just think of like.. clerics."

>Galeth Lothain turns to Hunter Ja'Kaal and asks, "Would it be possible for us to receive our own symbol?"

>Galeth Lothain asks, "Like a brand?"

You say, "It's just the way i think I guess."

>Tha Til ponders.

>Galeth Lothain asks, "Something to make us even prouder?"

>Hunter Ja'Kaal asks, "I'm not sure what you mean, you mean like something a tattoo merchant would give you?"

>Galeth Lothain says, "Well sorta...only.."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "With a power behind it..."

>Mandasity Beoulvue grins.

>Galeth Lothain says, "Like evertime we make the sigil's..."

>Galeth Lothain says, "WE make em."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Not anyone else.."

>Yvone Higomatto says, "I think galeth wants a good, evil, or ugly symbal."

>Galeth Lothain says, "But when we the guardians make one.."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Have it special in a wya, that has a guardian symbol."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Have like a mascot so to speak."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal squints at Galeth Lothain.

>Galeth Lothain chuckles.

>D'zun T'kath says, "I belive what brother Galeth is suggesting is a special mark to indicate the particular path we follow, whether that be a religious sect or personal belief."

>Yvone Higomatto asks, "A chith with an asapi sticking out of his carrot top butt?"

Galeth Lothain exclaims, "Yes!"

>Galeth Lothain points down.

>Galeth Lothain says, "Err."

>Galeth Lothain points at D'zun T'kath.

>Galeth Lothain points at D'zun T'kath.

>Galeth Lothain says, "What he said."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "I think we'll leave that to tattoo merchants, maybe in live we'll have player done tattoos (not saying we will, no promises!!!)."

>Galeth Lothain says, "I know what that is."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Artisans."

>Galeth Lothain hums innocently.

>Mandasity Beoulvue grins.

>Galeth Lothain nods politely to Mandasity Beoulvue.

>Galeth Lothain says, "Seth talks too much about it."

>Tha Til says, "Back to the earlier discussion, which I missed part of, I like the idea of expanded guardian-only unarmed combat moves, but not so much the making of formal weapons."

>D'zun T'kath says, "If you are a follower of Oshib a special brand or sacred object that somehow identifies you as a follower of that belief."

>Mandasity Beoulvue chuckles.

>Galeth Lothain says, "Oh...since d'zun mentioned the alignment."

>Galeth Lothain asks, "Shouldnt we have a negative to being evil?"

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Yes i dont like the idea of weapons either too be frank...."

>Galeth Lothain asks, "Since we are holy?"

>Galeth Lothain grins.

>Yvone Higomatto says, "Thiers evil guardians.. not everyone is a goodie good."

>You hear the voice of Dante Vamaduro say, "Holy can be evil too...just look at all the fundies in the real world."

>D'zun T'kath says, "Just because we are holy doesn't mean that we are all followers of the same god or belief."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Ok, seems like a majority are against the self made weapons thing, ok dokey."

>You hear someone chuckling.

>Galeth Lothain grins.

You say, "You can be evil and still be holy."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Hrm."

>Mandasity Beoulvue nods to you.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Shes right."

>Galeth Lothain asks, "Isnt Yeii for destruction?"

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "I follow my god fervently."

>Tha Til mutters to herself.

>Galeth Lothain asks, "And our group for saving and protection of this city?"

>D'zun T'kath says, "In the eyes of someone following the path of Yeii, followers of Oshib would be seen as "evil"."
>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "I follow my path..... my path doesnt have to be good."

You nod to D'zun T'kath.

>Galeth Lothain says, "Never saw it that way d'zun."

>Tha Til says, "Gods all go nuts. Defend the earth, take care of yourself, be safe."

>Yvone Higomatto says, "Only god I believed in was growth hormones.. and hes failed me."

>Mandasity Beoulvue turns to Galeth Lothain and says, "An evil guardian would go according to what he thinks is good for the city in an evil perspective."

>Galeth Lothain says, "See i didnt see it that way."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Forget i said the negative thing."

>Galeth Lothain winks.

>Mandasity Beoulvue chuckles at Yvone Higomatto.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal asks, "Ok, that's about all I had for the moment, any other general questions or suggestions?"

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Yes i have one."

>Dhaak Gujn stares blankly into the distance.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods to Mandasity Beoulvue.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Maybe someone heard me but i dont think they did."

>Mandasity Beoulvue asks, "What about ranged unarmed attacks?"

>Mandasity Beoulvue asks, "Like a flying kick that puts you into melee?"

>Tha Til says, "Or flying kicks."

>Tha Til nods.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "That depends on what kind of engagement system we end up with."

>Mandasity Beoulvue asks, "Or dare i say a ryu fireball?"

>D'zun T'kath asks, "If I might be so bold as to suggest one item?"

>Galeth Lothain turns to Hunter Ja'Kaal and asks, "Or a guardian only 'tackle' maneuver?"

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "At the moment that kind of move would be pointless."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods to D'zun T'kath.

>D'zun T'kath says, "As we are a holy order."

>You hear the voice of Dante Vamaduro exclaim, "Ha do ken!"

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Yes Dante thats EXACTLY what i meant."

>Yvone Higomatto says, "I have MANY ideas on a great engagement system myself."

>Mandasity Beoulvue nods.

>D'zun T'kath says, "Would it not be fair to assume that every guardian in some fashion follows one of the gods."

>Mandasity Beoulvue shakes his head.

Tha Til shakes her head.

>D'zun T'kath says, "Whether that god be neutral, good, or evil."

Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Engagement isn't one of my areas, so post any ideas about that on the boards."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods to Yvone Higomatto.

>Mandasity Beoulvue asks, "What if i choose to follow kindness and goodgiving itself without a religious figure to taint my beliefs?"

>D'zun T'kath says, "So we should be seen as champions for each of the alignments."

>Mandasity Beoulvue nods politely to Dhaak Gujn.

>Mandasity Beoulvue nods politely to D'zun T'kath.

Jade Venra says, "That is called ethics."

Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Thats how i see it..."

>Jade Venra smiles at Mandasity Beoulvue.

>Dante Vamaduro grins at Jade Venra.

>Jade Venra says, "That is my field of expertise."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "No i meant following it fervently enough to be called a profession."

>Jade Venra says, "I am an ethicist."

>Mandasity Beoulvue chuckles.

>D'zun T'kath says, "I understand of which you speak, but I'm suggesting since our order is based in such beliefs that it is hard to escape that entanglement with religion."

>Mandasity Beoulvue asks, "Do they get bonuses to sigils too Jade?"

>Tha Til says, "You confuse philosophy with religion."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Whether or not you guys will be able to specialize in a god will have to wait for live, it depends on another semi related question to be answered."

>Jade Venra says, "Exactly, tha."

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "This is all very interesting."

>Mandasity Beoulvue smiles.

>Mandasity Beoulvue says, "Im glad i came."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "As a whole the guardians are for honoring all the gods as an umbrella type organization with smaller religions within it."

>Tanis Loray says, "Oh."

>Jade Venra nods to Hunter Ja'Kaal.

>Jade Venra says, "They would make good univeralists."

>Jade Venra chuckles.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods to Jade Venra.

>grin thaYou grin at Tha Til.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal casually glances around the area.

You say, "I have a question."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods to you.

>Mandasity Beoulvue leads his group northeast.

You say, "And people have tried to explain this to me..."

You say, "But i'm slow."

You say, "It's about parry AGAIN."

>Galeth Lothain says, "Yea."

You say, "I just dont understand why I should train parry when it will never match my evasion.."

You say, "Yet everyone tells me i should be maxing it and using THAT instead of evasion."

>Nojn Rahn exclaims, "Simple.. don't train it!"

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "You don't have to, but it can be bennificial, here's why..."

You say, "Is Parry more superior for US."

You nod to Hunter Ja'Kaal.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Evasion lets you dodge almost all kinds of attacks, parry can only block certain attacks (mostly melee) but it's better at blocking those attacks then evasion is."

You nod.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "If you're in parry mode and someone shoots at you, it will automatically make you dodge since you can't parry guns."

>Dante Vamaduro asks, "Off topic of guardians, but is that the same for shield?"

>Galeth Lothain asks, "So evasion is a seconday tactic in defense then hmm?"

You ask, "So, can i ask this...?"

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Yes basically, except shield and parry don't corrispond on which attacks they work on."

>Dante Vamaduro nods.

You say, "If I'm in parry mode.. and my parry is much less than my evasion..."

>Jade Venra says, "I always evade."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal turns to Galeth Lothain and says, "Doesn't have to be."

>Jade Venra says, "It is my primary."

You ask, "I WON'T dodge hits that I'm unable to parry?"

>Galeth Lothain says, "Yea...we get a bonus to evasion.."

>Dante Vamaduro hugs a vyeftium tower shield.

>Jade Venra nods.

>Galeth Lothain says, "And the bonus makes our evasion ALOT higher."

You say, "Well, I'm human and I have more evasion because it's a core skill."

>Jade Venra says, "We have bonus to all three."

You say, "Right."

>Galeth Lothain asks, "How is it parry is jsut equal?"

You nod to Galeth Lothain.

>Jade Venra says, "Its very odd."

>Nojn Rahn says, "Nope, you won't Chevonne."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "Honestly I'm not 100% sure on that, you'll have to ask Trevor."

You say, "Okay."

>Galeth Lothain turns to you and says, "Talk to trevor and talk back to me, im curious on that."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "But if your parry is just a little less, then it'll be easier to parry."

>Nojn Rahn says, "I parry and get creamed, evasion does not kick in if parry fails."

You say, "I'm just trying to decide if I should put the points into parry.. i understand you can't dodge when you are stunned and things like that."

You say, "My parry will be alot less than my evasion."

>Jade Venra says, "Galeth dies in parry a lot."

>Nojn Rahn chuckles.

"Even if I max it."

Jade Venra exclaims, "Curses, skeletons!"

>Galeth Lothain says, "Cause i have 35 ranks in parry."

>Galeth Lothain chuckles.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal says, "There's arguements for both ways, I'm not sure if one way is better then the other."

>Nojn Rahn exclaims, "Skeletons pummel now so look out!"

You say, "Considering I get an extra 6 in it for being human."

You say, "Plus our guardian evasion bonus."

You say, "Okay, I understand."

You nod.

You say, "That's all I was wondering on that."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal nods.

>Hunter Ja'Kaal casually glances around the area.

>Galeth Lothain grins.

You say, "Well i think the sigils sound exciting."

>Galeth Lothain says, "And astral."

>Hunter Ja'Kaal grins at you.
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With the tattoo system being revealed for us, I got to wondering. I remember you mentioning awhile back that you were thinking of having some sigils take the form of tattoos.

Was just curious if you were still wanting to go that route -- finding some way to circumvent the Artisan requirement -- or if you were just going to keep sigils to tangible objects.

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Just to interject, the ishaik tattoos actually merited their own spot in player descriptions, to avoid conflict with other tattoo-ish stuff.
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With the tattoo system being revealed for us, I got to wondering. I remember you mentioning awhile back that you were thinking of having some sigils take the form of tattoos.

Was just curious if you were still wanting to go that route -- finding some way to circumvent the Artisan requirement -- or if you were just going to keep sigils to tangible objects.


For live I'd definately like to see sigil tattoos, I'm not sure if I'll work it into this new ishaik tattoo system, I haven't had a chance to look at it much at all yet.[/quote]
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