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Uritel
Joined: 15 Apr 2004 Posts: 16
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 9:22 pm Post subject: Formula? |
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I've been browsing around in regards as to how much charisma I will need for the implants I want, and have been asking people as to what their input is as far as to how much charisma I need.. to get what I want.
Right now I have 4 base Charisma, and a 5 bonus (so a total of 9). I have one left hand cyber implant done, and am resting at 52% essence. Previously, when I had 3 base Charisma, I was sitting on 48% essence. One.. is this percentage of essence also reflecting the 5 bonus I have to Charisma right now, or without it? And if it's without it, does that mean (assuming that the percentage is not scale-based and is just a hard number) that I will be able to get a left arm implant after six more Charisma? [Note: I heard that I would need 75%, with my left hand already implanted, to get my left arm done.. so 75% - 52% = 23%.. divided by 4 (since 1 Charisma = 4% essence point gain) = 5.75.. rounded up to 6 more Charisma.] But.. if the bonus is in fact affecting as to how much essence I have, does that imply that I'm going to need 11 more Charisma? [75% - 52% + 20% (due to the drop from the bonus) = 43%.. divided by 4 = 10.75.. rounded up to 11].
Hopefully this wasn't too confusing, just trying to see if cyber implants are worth the hit that you take in training Charisma. |
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HR-Trevor Boss Type Guy
Joined: 04 Oct 2002 Posts: 6683 Location: Louisville, KY
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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Bonuses don't count, only your base charisma. As to the rest, well other players have theories, I'll leave it to them to comment. _________________ "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." -- Plato
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Uritel
Joined: 15 Apr 2004 Posts: 16
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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HR-Trevor wrote: |
Bonuses don't count, only your base charisma. As to the rest, well other players have theories, I'll leave it to them to comment. |
Glad to hear that it's base charisma.
Aww.. share the rest. Or give me a hint at least? Tell me if I'm on track or what not. |
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HR-Trevor Boss Type Guy
Joined: 04 Oct 2002 Posts: 6683 Location: Louisville, KY
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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Neifl actually came up with some calculations, I think they're on this board maybe or on Gabriel's site (check the player links on haelrahv.com). They weren't perfect but quite close. _________________ "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." -- Plato
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Uritel
Joined: 15 Apr 2004 Posts: 16
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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HR-Trevor wrote: |
Neifl actually came up with some calculations, I think they're on this board maybe or on Gabriel's site (check the player links on haelrahv.com). They weren't perfect but quite close. |
Yes.. and it's those calculations that caused me to wonder in the first place.
He states that each Charisma point is 100 essence points (i.e. 1 Charisma = 100 Essence).. and that a cybernetic hand requires 600 essence points, which would mean that one would need 6 Charisma.
Which.. well, doesn't quite make sense, since I had 3 Charisma (i.e. 300 essence points) upon getting my left hand implanted with a cybernetic hand.
So yes, I did research on that website.. which wound up getting me only more confused, since the numbers didn't add up. Hence where I came up with my calculations and inquiries. |
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HR-Trevor Boss Type Guy
Joined: 04 Oct 2002 Posts: 6683 Location: Louisville, KY
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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All I can really say is that each socket requires a specific amount of base charisma points (not a percentage). If for example an arm requires say 10 and a foot say 4, then you need 14 charisma to get both.
BTW your avatar is hilarious. _________________ "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." -- Plato
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Uritel
Joined: 15 Apr 2004 Posts: 16
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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HR-Trevor wrote: |
All I can really say is that each socket requires a specific amount of base charisma points (not a percentage). If for example an arm requires say 10 and a foot say 4, then you need 14 charisma to get both.
BTW your avatar is hilarious. |
I hope that an arm doesn't require 10 Charisma.. but along those lines, at least I have an idea where to start, and appreciate your input. As I had warned another person, though.. don't be surprised if you see a number of Eolai characters being rolled up tomorrow, all investing a fair number of their stats into Charisma.
And yes, I love my avatar. Have had it for a number of years. |
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SolitaryTurnip
Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 1724 Location: Your mom (burn)
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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Troopers get a bonus to cyberware, which might explain why it's lower for you... if you're a trooper... and if you didn't already read about that... -_-;
I'm helping!
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And yes, I love my avatar. Have had it for a number of years. |
Whoa, years. I retire my avatars after a good few months of service *grins*. |
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Uritel
Joined: 15 Apr 2004 Posts: 16
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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SolitaryTurnip wrote: |
Troopers get a bonus to cyberware, which might explain why it's lower for you... if you're a trooper... and if you didn't already read about that... -_-;
I'm helping!
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And yes, I love my avatar. Have had it for a number of years. |
Whoa, years. I retire my avatars after a good few months of service *grins*. |
No, not a Trooper.. so wasn't factoring that in. I figure after I figure out the formula for every other profession, I'll move onto Trooper. |
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Downtweak
Joined: 14 Mar 2003 Posts: 389 Location: West of October
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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Numbers worked for me when I did it, didn't work for me after I rechose my stats from trait/flaw.
Don't really care enough to test it again to see what if anything changed. _________________ -Downtweak
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