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docsushi



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 Post Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 4:23 pm    Post subject: Case Penalty?
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Okay, so I was just wondering, is there a case penalty for doing several cases in a row?

Today, I was messing around and doing case after case and after a while I started to notice something.

1) It seemed to become harder and harder to study cases. The more cases I took, the longer it took to study them.

2) It seemed to become harder and harder to argue or persuade the cases (I didn't try intimidate) Arbitrator.

Is this my imagination?

Also, it's incredibly difficult to make money (or gain experience) doing this as a lowbie Bureaucrat. Perhaps the difficulty or the payments should be increased to make it more a little more lucrative?
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 Post Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 6:08 pm    Post subject:
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Okay, so I was just wondering, is there a case penalty for doing several cases in a row?


No, there is no penalty for doing several in a row, it's just coincidence that it turned out that way for you.

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Also, it's incredibly difficult to make money (or gain experience) doing this as a lowbie Bureaucrat. Perhaps the difficulty or the payments should be increased to make it more a little more lucrative?


I'll look at it again when I get the chance, but if you've read the other posts on this I've already doubled exp and the money will get better as you gain levels.
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 Post Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 12:40 am    Post subject:
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the case experiance is still very very low compared to say foraging. And the same can be said with the money. And since working cases require at least 2, if not 4, different skills to do, there should be a difference. As Kelasa before I reallocated my main, I sat and did cases non stop for pretty close to two hours, and never got my mind much fuller then nearly empty. Maybe not only the experiance for cases needs to be looked at but the experiance gained for foraging.
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 Post Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 8:41 am    Post subject:
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A full experience pool shouldn't be the crowning jewel of every system. Drain rates effect how fast (if at all, at first level) you get there, afterall, and I'd wager that "docsushi" is under 10th and that you, Kelasa, were under 10th when you played with the law system. Those under 10th have an insane drain rate, if you'll remember.

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 Post Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 11:03 am    Post subject:
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Foraging is a sure bet... especially when you're young. Also, it's grunt work. Most anyone can do it so it's not very glorius. I haven't tested it out myself but I imagine the skill if not money from trying cases to be about on par with pottery. I use pottery when I want to let my pool drain, but still earn money. With a skill title in pottery I still make about as much money with it as I would foraging. I look at foraging as a job, but my class related skills as a career. RL, when you start out as a young lawyer you're probably a public defender, working extra hard, and not making very much money or gaining noteriety. As time goes on however, you eventually get to have your own law firm, a secreteary, etc. and you feel more fulfilled as well as gain quite the income. But that takes not only years of school, but years of trying little insiginificant cases for little pay.

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 Post Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 11:35 am    Post subject:
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Heh, it'd be funny if Bureaucrats could eventually set up actual law firms in Live. They would, of course, generate daily (or weekly) income for all of the "CEO"s, assuming a group of Bureaucrats went in on it together. Not to mention you could start ad campaigns that do nothing but defame competing law firms. Fun for everyone.

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 Post Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 12:40 pm    Post subject:
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Defaming competing law firms? Isn't that a bit like firemen setting fire to your house and then putting it out?
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 Post Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 2:19 pm    Post subject:
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Actually William at the time I last played seriously with the law system I was level 16. And would take anywhere from 3 to 45 minutes on a single case to study and argue it.
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 Post Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 10:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Case Penalty?
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2) It seemed to become harder and harder to argue or persuade the cases (I didn't try intimidate) Arbitrator.


This seems to be too random and without any strategy to it. I can persuade straight through 10 or so cases and then suddenly it will stop working.

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Also, it's incredibly difficult to make money (or gain experience) doing this as a lowbie Bureaucrat. Perhaps the difficulty or the payments should be increased to make it more a little more lucrative?


Yes, at low levels the pay isn't overwhelming, but it does get better. I've determined the payout schedule for cases so you can determine if it's worth your time:

Win (successfully convincing the arbitrator 3 times): $12 * level (minus $20 for buying the case)

Successfully convincing the arbitrator only 2 times: $4 * level - $20

Successfully convincing the arbitrator only once: $1 * level - $20

Total complete failure: -$20
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 Post Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2003 10:38 am    Post subject:
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Win (successfully convincing the arbitrator 3 times): $12 * level (minus $20 for buying the case)

Successfully convincing the arbitrator only 2 times: $4 * level - $20

Successfully convincing the arbitrator only once: $1 * level - $20

Total complete failure: -$20


That doesn't seem right. At level 1, here is what I get:

3 times - $60.
2 times - $20
1 time - $5
0 times - $0

Overall, at level 1, I seem to be break even when it comes to cash for trying cases.
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 Post Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2003 2:21 pm    Post subject:
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docsushi wrote:
That doesn't seem right. At level 1, here is what I get:

3 times - $60.
2 times - $20
1 time - $5
0 times - $0


Hm interesting. Well if you notice, those are the same numbers you'd get if you were level 5. Perhaps there's a minimum payment you can receive, then after you hit level 6 it starts following my formula.
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